Quite frankly, I don’t think the 3ds is a very strong handheld. I think Nintendo needs a powerhouse console and needs to screw the gimmicks. The sad truth is that kids today play for the graphics and not for the gameplay. That’s why nobody cares about Nintendo anymore. Granted, I also do feel that motion control should not be forced. Every wii game has that one stupid thing you have to use the wiimote for, and it’s annoying. If the Wii U is anything like that, I will be very annoyed. The Wii U will ship with specs similar to a PS3, so it is ALREADY BEHIND. Nintendo needs to step up their game, It’s pretty sad when an emulator can make their games look better than they do on the real thing without texture mods(Dolphin with maxed graphics settings, like full Anti-Aliasing). I think it’s time nintendo pulls a Sega and gets out of the console game, because at least Nintendo can make good and memorable games(unlike Sega…). Granted, there are those few excellent games. I’m sure all of us who played Hotel Dusk Room 215 on the DS and it’s sequel Last Window: The Secret of Cape West and loved them. However, that company is now bankrupt due to the economy tanking worldwide. Last Window: The Secret of Cape West Never made it to the USA, but it was amazing(it can be bought in Europe, and DS games are luckily region free). They were one of nintendo’s strongest developers, but couldn’t make it simply because there wasn’t a market for their titles on Nintendo’s casual and gimmicky oriented market. They were the best games I’d ever played on the DS, and certainly the most memorable.
The Wii was like the console equivalent of a Michale Bay movie. Sure it made tons of money at first and seemed to do well, but because it was exclusively aimed at the lowest common denominator and was shallow in many aspects. Its just not very respected now.
Plus this console generation is not done with 360 & PS3 remaining strong with quality titles, while the hoopla over Wii has been gone for quite a while at this point. When its all said and done in this console generation, Nintendo may very well come out the loser in this war as well.
Its unfortunate that while Nintendo is the last remaining dedicated gaming company in the console wars, its the two big corporate offerings that have taken the gaming community seriously. With gaming to satisfy all demographics, not just the casuals.
The reason why Nintendo is “falling behind” is because its two competitors subsidized their console systems like crazy. From taking massive losses on consoles to money-hatting 3rd party developers for exclusives to costly marketing campaigns. If anyone actually tracked Sony and Microsoft’s financials, they would realize that Sony literally lost everything they made from PS1 and PS2 and more due to the losses from PS3. So basically the last 18 years the entire Sony gaming division was completely in vain. Microsoft’s consoles division lost them over 5 billion every since it was created.
The same thing is happening with the 3rd party software developers…because Sony and Microsoft went crazy making unsustainable graphics powerhouses their 3rd party developers big or small are all ramping up their production costs to make graphical masterpieces to compete. Small devs can’t keep up and either go bankrupt or have to go handheld / Wii in order to survive. The remaining big guys are all pulling tricks like releasing UMvC3 less than a year after MvC3 to mask the increasing production cost…it’s why we’re seeing ridiculous amount of sequels /remakes / DLCs / spinoffs.
Eventually things are going to break and then Nintendo will return to being competitive in terms of the standard hardcore gaming. I seriously doubt Sony or Microsoft will want to make another pair of billion losing consoles this gen.
I agree with you for the most part, but unless you’re healthy and you stay on top of your weekly cardio, playing real-life tennis can be a struggle. Definitely not for the endurance challenged.
Wii has it’s share of awesome titles, most recently Skyward Sword.
Everybody respects something different. I like all three consoles as they all offered me great experiences.
PS3 was intended to last 10 years, the Wii 5. Not sure about the 360. However it’s no surprise that Wii is moving on as it was not supposed to last any longer than a consoles normal lifespan.
Not sure how you came to this conclusion as the Wii also has games to satisfy all demographics.
So tell me, how many 3DS games are out right now that you would purchase? Right now, there’s maybe one or two. That’s not enough for a handheld that’s been out this long. The 3d isn’t necessary and I feel the hardware was released prematurely, and screwed over all those that bought a DSi as well. I don’t feel it is finished as evidenced by the second analog stick add on and poor battery life. It was rushed out the door because Nintendo realized they needed something new. Last I checked, the Vita hasn’t suffered from a price drop yet. Granted, I wouldn’t buy a Vita either, but that isn’t the point. The 3ds isn’t a solid handheld right now, and it may never be with all the casual smartphone games dominating the market.
I will say this for the Wii, being an old-school lightgun shooter fan, i’m impressed how many shooters made it onto the system. Although Nintendo didn’t care about lightgun games in the N64 & gamecube days, and they’re only bothering here in order to add onto to their list of gimmicks, its still pretty cool and the reason i’ll be picking up a Wii for dirt cheap when it inevitably hits the bargin bin.
I am sorry but the price drop was planned all along. Nintendo is not dumb enough to believe that people would pay more than a home console for a handheld. It is a pretty smart move to put something up for a higher price and then lower it. You get alot of people to bitch but when its dropped everyone will then praise you. I mean just look at what Evo did this year. If they said at the very beginning that people would have had to pay $10 to just be a spectator people would have bitched but by starting out at $50 and then dropping it to $10 they become heros.
Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars. - Great TBS game that is underrated.
SM3DL - Mario platforming action
Cave Story 3D - Great game and 3D was done well. It could have come with more features but it was still great.
Kid Icarus: Uprising - Great Game with great online.
Nano Assault - Another great Underrated game
Mario Kart 7 - One of the best in the series and with the online patch in place a great online game once again.
Pilotwings Resort - Yes suprisingly a nice relaxing little game.
Resident Evil Revelations - i dont even need to say anything about this.
Shinobi - a good serious platformer
Tales of the Abyss - Nice RPG title
There are more games as well as good ones coming out this year.
When you also have access to the EShop and 3DSWare this becomes an amazing handheld with some great potential.
I believe this handheld also just reached 6 mil in japan. So for a handheld that was announced DOA I think it is doing pretty well for itself.
People always like to pick on nintendo for some reason but the thread should really be changed to
Future of the Gaming Industry, Bright or Dark
One of the problems with The Gaming Industry IMO is that the consoles pretty much rehash the same ideas over and over again so they can release the same stuff with a new gimmik each year.(ie Mario, COD, Halo)
People that like mario will say it is not the same
people that like COD will say it is not the same,
People that like Halo will say it is not the same.
Now I believe the real problem is that The Gaming Industry has to do this in order to survive and not only survive but try to bring us original content as well.
By latching on to these Cash Cows, they are able to generate money off of pretty much the same idea just by updating graphics and adding in things here and there, this means less time to put out a product so they can bring in income sooner and put it to use on other ideas.
This is however just speculation and my own opinion on this matter as I have no idea how much money goes into making games nowadays but I am pretty sure because gaming is now alot about eye candy that it has to be alot of money.
I really dont know why Nintendo is always the target of such forums.
but, I think with time, it’ll work. We do have some solid titles out for it. And more are coming…I mean, I’m still looking forward to Luigi’s Mansion 2. That didn’t get canned, did it?
You mean the games that I’ve already bought? K so far I have Starfox, Kid Icarus, LoZ: OoT, MK7, and Super Mario 3D Land. I want Resident Evil Revelations and I plan to buy Kingdom Hearts, NSMB 2 and Paper Mario as of right now. If they announce Fire Emblem or Monster Hunter 3G for localization this year at E3 I’m grabbing those with the quickness. I don’t see how it screwed over people who bought a DSi since it was a 2 year gap this is of course not counting the XL which didn’t do anything besides blow the DSi up super huge proportions. Vita hasn’t suffered from a price drop yet is true but if things keep going the way they are right now then don’t be surprised if they suddenly hack off $50 off of the price which is what I really think the system needs and just more games. Watching the sales between both of the handhelds for the past few months has been so ridiculously one sided especially in Japan. DS had a same rocky start as 3DS did but now it’s surpassed the sales that DS did within it’s first 14 months.
Casual smartphone argument eh? God I hate that argument. You don’t buy a phone for games. The games that are on a phone will never stack up to a game that’s put out for a handheld. Most of them are quick and easy with no care on the actual product.
Wasn’t the DS in 2004 the same way? Not a lot of good games at first? And yeah I remember about the 3rd party stuff now. There really wasn’t a ton of good stuff from them too.
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Anyone who tells anyone else how they should feel about a video game is a dumb bitch and you looking real Richard Simmons retarded maid status.
Also I love how when Sonichuman completely proves your entire post wrong with hard numbers you ignore it. Hmmm, refusing to face logic? Yeah that’s also a characteristic of a dumb bitch.
Sounds like somebody trying to start a flame war, IMO.You want to call me a dumb bitch? That’s fine with me. It certainly doesn’t make me you any better of a person. I love how I’m refusing to face logic as well. I don’t browse the forum 24/7 for this sort of thing. The only thing I saw in his post regarding me was sales info of DS vs. PSP. That’s all well and good, but the PSP did have more potential, and it would have done better if it wasn’t so easy to pirate games. That turned away developers, which lead to a lack of excellent games(not to say there wasn’t outstanding titles, there were some amazing games, but they don’t exactly appeal to everybody), which lead to an overall lack of sales.
The 3ds has little 3rd party dev support, and it’s just another gimmick system. The wii was the same way. I’ve owned many consoles(all three current gen), and I’ve probably used my Wii the least out of all of them. I don’t have a 3ds because I know I won’t use it much. There isn’t enough third party support or variety. Net nobody has explained the poor battery life or the analog stick add-on either. The hardware wasn’t finished and nintendo forced it out anyway. I had a launch DS, it’s battery life was reasonable and it didn’t feel incomplete.
I won’t disagree, but most people will. It’s much more likely the average teen carries a phone over their preferred handheld nowadays.People are too busy texting and playing temple run than enjoying a good game that has some substance to it.
Out of the the games you listed, I’d consider buy half of those. Starfox, Kid Icarus, OoT 3D, MK7, Super Mario 3D Land, NSMB 2 and Paper Mario are all published by nintendo. You only listed three third party games, and two of the first party games are remakes. I don’t see a lot of developer support, which is truly necessary for a portable system. You need to rely on developers to do something innovative with the hardware you have created, and I haven’t seen that as of yet. Until then my opinion on the 3ds stands, there just aren’t enough of the small guys developing on the 3ds to do something really special with it. That’s where it is behind, but I guess every system this generation is.