Future of Nintendo? Bright.. or Dark

General Discussion
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Times are changing, the internet changed the world.
We are literally the last generation that lived in a world with no internet to today’s global networking.
With these changing times of technology, it seems like Nintendo is still lost with no sense of direction.

What do you guys think of Nintendo’s future…
Lets be honest, Wii started not bad. But in the end, it bombed.
They’re releasing their next gen console.
But i’ve been browsing through the press, and it doesn’t look so hot and looks like they haven’t learned a damn thing.
Do you guys think Nintendo will even make the cut after their next gen console, or will they become like sega??

Nintendo is in my roots, i grew up with that shit and loved it.
But, in the end, even i turned my back on nintendo and moved on…

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The Wii sucks.

If the new console is like the Wii.

Guess what, little kids and families are going to eat it up like fucking cake. You know how many Wiis got sold because of conservative christian families making sure their kids can’t play Gears of War or Killzone?

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The Wii was hands-down the best console this gen.

From a software perspective, at any rate.

And really - what else matters?

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I loved Nintendo when I was a lad and I dislike Nintendo now. I might even write a Bitmob article about it, which PAINTS MY HOUSE WITH YOUR BROTHA.

Software > hardware.

However, Wii software is mostly trash, and the control mechanism which many Wii game devs force on players hurts the stuff that rightfully shouldn’t be called trash.

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That the thing couldn’t make me toast if I wanted it to.

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Unlike the 360, that can pretty much cook anything.

AM I DOING THIS RIGHT???

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Waggle hurts the Wii more than it helps it. To me, anyway.

I don’t want to waggle. I want to play games.

Wii sales have been steadily tanking for some time now because the media is over Wii Bowling, and nobody really cares about Wii Fit anymore.

Nintendo no longer markets to the core market of gamers, nobody really does I guess, but the Wii is marketed as family friendly, soft, and bendy. Waggle, and motion control as a whole, is a gimmick. People bought into it at first but it has lost its effect.

Nintendo is going to last forever on this business model.

Although I wish they wouldn’t.

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Nintendo will be fine because their 1st party titles will always get sales. ALWAYS. All those so called “hardcore” players will cream their pants when the next Zelda/Smash Bros/Metriod/etc drops. Worse case scenario, the WiiU will be cheap as hell.

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They should dump console development, stick with handhelds and do what they do best: Repackage all their games for the other consoles. They’ve been doing it on their own systems since the N64 anyways. The lack of developer commitment for the Wii was ugly, it’s abundantly clear that publishers aren’t willing to commit games that will cost more than $40. They simply don’t sell. Forget the console after the Wii-U, they should just cancel that shit, the only reason it’s popping up this year is because they realize they’re going to get buried by lack of titles when MS and Sony launch their next gens, so might as well see if lightning strikes twice on the next batch of suckers. Nintendo has it’s roots, but like bad teeth, after a while you just need to extract that shit and be done with it.
They could probably make more off of Super Mario repackaged editions for Live arcade or PSN than anything off the Wii…when Wii Sports is your “best selling game” of the Wii, it’s easy to see the damn thing has an incredibly low attach rate among it’s players. System is the bane of my existence, I hate having to dedicate wall space in my store for it.:arazz:

Sorry Nintendo, but I hope the Wii-U bombs, and the way the gaming market has been this year, it probably will.

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Uhhhhhhhh, I would violently disagree with this statement…you’re joking right? Please tell me your joking…

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yes, initially. but their fanbase is getting smaller and smaller and their hardcore fans are just growin up.
its basically turning into a gaming of fisherprice of toys.

during gamecube, nintendo got really hurt. but this gen, nintendo lost a sh1t load of money.
their hardware are becoming gimmicks. straight up.
third parties aren’t really supporting nintendo.
i think they’re done.

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Nintendo’s First Party Software is the majority of the best software released this gen.

The PS3 has a couple, there are a few multiplat, but the Wii absolutely dominates.

Barring PSN and 360 downloaded games, at any rate.

Disc-based, they completely run a train on their competition.

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I’m still a firm believer that Nintendo sells nostalgia first, games second.

Example. Re-release Surge. Laugh self to sleep on top of piles of money.

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Play some.

Replace that belief with knowledge [to the contrary].

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I have. I’ve played all iterations of Mario, the new DK, and some of the new Zelda. I found myself doing the same stuff I have been doing since I was in grade school.

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the wii has some of the best console exclusive titles and the most.
also gonna quote someone from another thread

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All the hate aside, can someone point me towards the numbers for this gen? I’m pretty much a DS-only player now, so if Ninty tanks, that will pretty much kill whatever gamer is left in me. I’ve owned all three next-gen systems, and ironically, only the Wii is still left standing… (360 RROD’d and PS3 YLOD’d… I may repair the PS3 for fighters, but idk right now)

However, I think all you ‘Nintendo is dead’ people are overlooking one thing: Handheld Pokemon games. As long as they have Pokemon, Nintendo will still have a license to print money.

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You appreciate games the way Sovi3t appreciates women.

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Let’s look at Nintendo’s “killer” first party Wii games.

Super Mario Galaxy is great. Solid platforming, sharp controls, and one of the few games I’m totally okay playing with a Wiimote. Super Mario Galaxy 2 was also well-made, though unlike the first, the second set of 120 stars was not fun at all.

New Super Mario Bros. Wii is mediocre at best. Ignore the multiplayer collision nonsense, ignore the lack of a level editor which hackers conjured up very soon after: the level design was bleh, relying on the “oh look our level editor lets us move terrain via what looks like a super easy-to-use interface BUT WE’RE NOT GIVING IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC WE ARE NINTENDO” gimmick. I’d rather play any NES Mario game over this.

DKCR was bought and sold in like a span of two weeks. No playable Diddy unless in multiplayer. Level design like something out of a Dimps Sonic, encouraging speeding through the levels instead of taking time to enjoy the damn game.

Kirby’s Epic Yarn needed a difficulty selector and a Hard difficulty, but is otherwise solid. It handled the multiplayer much better than either NSMBW and DKCR. Interesting and cool lack of life bar/lives, but getting hit lots means no unlocking the game’s secrets. More fun than I thought it would be.

I still didn’t play Other M, and I’m not going to. 3D action game with an NES controller and I’ve seen enough cutscenes to know what garbage the narrative is. Fuck it.

I might have played Skyward Sword if it didn’t force the bullshit waggle controls, which was a deal breaker with quite a few games I wanted to enjoy (Symphonia 2, Prime 3) but couldn’t because we still don’t have controller options.

Brawl had control options. That’s like one of its two positives. It’s a giant piece of shit otherwise. I wrote a Bitmob article about it. Read it! LOVE IT.

Twilight Princess was purchased on the GameCube so I could use a proper controller with it. I played up until the entrance to the first dungeon… and then stopped, bored out of my mind and not seeing what this game could do to entice me. I then played through Zelda 2 for the umpteenth time, which remains a solid title and woefully underrated. I also played Bastion, which is like a combat-heavy Zelda with way better mechanics and a more compelling story.

The Wii is where I first played the obscenely excellent Cave Story. Not a Nintendo first party title, but hey, that counts for something, right?

Kid Icarus Uprising was a STELLAR Wii game. Designed from the ground up with Wiimote and Nunchuk in mind, it was a massively entertaining shooter that I’M SO GLAD DIDN’T HAVE SOMETHING DUMB HAPPEN TO IT LIKE GETTING MOVED TO THE 3DS.

Fuck Nintendo. They have nothing to offer me.

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I don’t think its so much “nintendo is dead” so much as it is “nintendo is incredibly reliant on a few, big name titles and is kind of stagnant because of it”. Yes, they are smart enough to make them well, but it doesn’t seem very sustainable.
If the WiiU is cheap, and has a strong launch lineup, and there aren’t any rumblings about how the ps4 and 720 or whatever they are called are going to make it look “last gen” (or if it already is,last gen/ only catching up to the ps3/360 now), I think it can do very well as being the first “next gen” console has a large advantage in terms of “must have” consumerism. I have trouble imagining the wiiU NOT being the hot item this Christmas.

I don’t think they can really rely on “gimmicks” this time around because of how motion control has panned out well and given how common touch screen games are, it might be pretty hard to sell 60$ ipad games.