Future of Nintendo? Bright.. or Dark

Gnalvl giving alanedrick a hell of a time both gunning for that biggest faggot of 2013 trophy. Whoever wins we all lose…unless they’re both permabanned.

Anyways back on topic immediate future of Nintendo? looking great with Zelda and Mario sales sure to give a nice chunk of change.

  1. Theres no point in listening to people who dont know how to beat Zelda 2 on Nes

  2. I dont care cause you cant beat Zelda 2 on nes

Trivializing Zelda 2’s basic difficulty just makes the 3D Zeldas look even more pathetically easy.

Let’s do some visual aid, since words don’t appear to be people’s specialty here:

[details=Spoiler]Here’s 2 combat examples from early in Zelda 2:
http://youtu.be/vi1zPDWUquI?t=5m8s
http://youtu.be/Lf3-hgF6HD4?t=6m25s

Within minutes you get to the first palace and fight iron knuckles. They come straight at you with a rapid barrage of high/low stabs. If you don’t block high/low correctly against all their attacks, you will get ripped apart in a matter of seconds. If you don’t attack correctly high/low, you will never hit them.

The goriyas are found in caves in the beginning of the game and hit you with a similar high/low barrage of boomerangs. Aside from being able to hit you from much further away, they have the advantage that many boomerangs will pass you and then come around to hit you in the back - meaning you have to block both high/low and left/right in rapid succession.

From this point at the beginning of the game, it gradually gets harder, as you face more enemies at once, as well as new individual enemies with harder patterns. There is an exploit you can use against darknuts - a jump attack with the right timing will always get through their defenses before they can block or counter, but the timing is tricky and takes practice to pull off, and thats if you even know the trick to begin with, which takes time for an ordinary player to discover due to the inherent risk of the manuever.

Now let’s look at Ocarina:

http://youtu.be/4cpSBkuaqL8

The first couple hours of the game are exactly this retarded. You’d have to be asleep or quadraplegic not to block those deku seeds. There is no need to block specifically high or low. Even if you fail to block the first seed, it takes around 10 seconds for the scrubs to fire the next seed. You also tend to only ever face 1 or 2 enemies at a time.

There is nothing in the game which even begins to approach fighting a duel against an opponent of equal or greater power till the Forest Temple, which is the 4th dungeon, almost halfway through the game and takes at least 2-3 hours to reach.

http://youtu.be/80-kks30_iA?t=9m43s

The Ocarina stalfos knights’ rate of attack is WAY slower than the Zelda 2 darknuts. They have a jump attack, but basically as long as you are circle strafing rather than standing still, it won’t hit you, and once you get close, it will always cut them in the knees and stop them before they can connect with it. The only reason this guy has any trouble is because he artificially limited himself to 3 hearts and no shield.

Also notice: contrary to Specs’ earlier assertions, the stalfos will not gang up on you. If you’re targeting a different enemy, they just walk in circles and politely wait for you to finish before they take their turn to attack.

At this point the enemy challenge outside of bosses pretty much plateaus for the rest of the game until you reach the iron knuckles in the 2nd to last dungeon.

http://youtu.be/_Lx28HuZQyI

They are even slower than the stalfos knights. They don’t mix up rapid high/low attacks. Everything they do can be dodged pretty much any way you like, and the only time their attacks hit you is when you run straight into them face first. They also have an exploit which is even easier than the one in Zelda 2:

http://youtu.be/sg8cKp6emmk

That’s pretty much as hard as this game gets outside of “hit the boss in his weak point”.

Did things improve in later Zelda titles? Not really.

The knights in Windwaker are equally slow, but they gave you the option to jump on their heads, and their armor falls off much faster. http://youtu.be/LGvpVAAH1Wc

Skyward stalfos are still slow as shit. They no longer wait in line to fight you, but they also don’t bother with a jump attack, so they’re basically even easier, and killing multiple birds with one stone saves you time. http://youtu.be/uEriZi_X1Zc

This clip from TP is basically a gag real of bad gameplay:
http://youtu.be/5dghqEvSJhE

1: 45 - four or five bokoblins and 4-5 pirhana plants torn up by random button mashing

4:30 - four of those majora lizards back the player into a corner, showing off how bad the camera gets under stress cause all you can see is Link’s tunic. And yet, he just spams the same slash over and over, and they just sit there and take it in the ass over and over without landing any attacks, till they die.

11:00 - the iron knuckle/darknut waits in line while the player hookshots all the flying monkeys to death, then fails at life. For every one of his slow-as-fuck predictable attacks, he drops a chunk of armor. Even when he loses the big armor and gets faster, he can’t land an attack against a circle-strafing opponent. Yipee.

12:45 - more snorefest[/details]

If 3D Zelda is “Punchout with Swords”, it’s a special version of punchout where you only beat up on women, children, and the elderly till the 4th dungeon, and then you fight Glass Joe a couple times, then you fight more women and children till the 2nd to last stage, where you fight Von Kaiser, and then the game is pretty much over.

Fuck the naysayers.

I’m walkin’ on sunshine.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/pieces_of_eight/IMG_20131122_115839_zps6ceeccdd.jpg

I gotta admit Nintendo looks pretty bright today. I’m not going to get much sleep this weekend between playing ALBW and SM3DW.

Now only if Dragon Quest X comes out, then my life would be complete

I thought I said a long fucking time ago that nintendo wouldn’t be completely outclassed. Who’s the clown who made that big fuss about it months ago

https://vine.co/v/hFDYlh3ElgE

Oh god that sounds like a horrible demonic twisted version of the sound I used to love (now it has been tarnished with by china with this shoddy plastic crap)

For a second I thought you were referring to this

Spoiler

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130714135547/darksouls/images/a/a8/Mimic.png

… I’d buy both. One to condition people to expect greatness everytime they open it. One to make people forever fear every toy chest they open :coffee:

I went and bought Super Mario 3D World, Zelda: ALBW, and Mario Party Island tour. All are damn good. Zelda is amazing so far Mario is epic. Mario party is good old mario party. Ign giving it a 5.5 cause single player content one of the more retarded reviews I have seen. Hell battlefield 4 single player is mediocre at best but gets a 8.5. I don’t get how you give a bad review for a game made for multiplayer Lol.

Nah I’m always rolling in Lloyd’s Talismans

A Link Between Worlds feels sooooooooo good to play. Everything from movement to weapon swinging to how you no longer have to manage stuff like ammo for your bow (it costs some of a replenishing energy bar that a bunch of things share) is top tier dynamite timepants. Just beat the first dungeon, and I’m looking forward to the rest of the game.

So what exactly upsets you: that Mario Party got shat on or that it got shat on for lacking single player content? If the latter, I kinda get that. If the former, well, it’s Mario Party, a series that has always sucked.

i don’t give a damn what anybody says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5M6cchp6lI&feature=share&list=PL0zTGNAmpgmfqg8fGG5L09_MyKhpeha2f&index=7

is the greatest piece of video game music i’ve heard since…i don’t know. but yes.

super mario 3d world >>>

only con is the timer. the game makes me want a 3d mario on land like 64. but this game is basically what we’ve been asking for back in the day when everybody wondered what mario 3 or world would be like in 3d.

hope they do dlc worlds.

edit
this was dope too. easily the best two themes in a long, long time IMO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aojcwdRfs-Q

double post. that song makes me want to play final fantasy and its not even in the damn game. feels like some ff shit.

sheds tear

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723751

Let’s hope Mario does better in the U.S.

The Wii U’s install base still low. It wouldn’t do decent numbers.

So you’re saying you expected only 10% of Wii U owners in Japan to buy a 3D Mario. If anything early Wii U adopters should logically be the first ones to buy it, but nope.

It’s not like there were many Wii U’s in Japanese households to begin with. I just saying I’m not surprised by the low number considering the console has been under performing for the year it has been available.

Well, looking at the other 3D Mario debuts, the 10% buy through is quite an accurate expectation. 2D Mario and Mario Kart have always outperformed 3D Mario for whatever reason.

Anyway game is great, go buy it peeps. As far as other Nintendoomed discussion, I’m still getting good games on their systems so eh.