Alot of that stuff I knew. Its just smart Guy players aren’t just doing random special moves. It’s mostly his normals that seem to be way better than I thought.
Having problems with Bison again lately. I think i can pretty much conclude that Bison IS Juri’s worst matchup, I look at the character select screen and although characters like Yun, Honda, Chun, Sakura, Rose, Yang etc, they can look intimidating but these days i always get this terrible hopeless feeling when i play against Bison. It seems he generally has an easy time throwing Juri around and doing random scissor kicks to start pressure, random slide, random full screen EX PC, builds meter with fullscreen devils reverse for free. Duno like a million things he dominates the matchup in, its very annoying indeed.
Find it hard to imagine that our Sakura is one of a character’s worst matchup >.<
MetallicMike, I’ll play you a few games sometimes to grasp the matchup better
Shit happens, no one believes me when i say Juri is Vipers worst matchup, but it clearly is.
Bison is winnable. Takes a few more turns to stun and ko juri. Sakura needs one touch into mixup. That’s it. Seth needs one tough to kd to mix up. Yun and yang need kd to mix up.
Bison just has pressure. That’s it. Block and Eat chip. No biggy.
Speaking of C.Viper, what’s the best way to get out of her cr.mp xx M thunder knuckle trap? I get hit by that a lot. I’ve noticed you can’t jump out of there. thunder knuckle is armor breaking so I can’t focus or ex kasatushi.
Looking at her frame data:
cr.mp is +5/+2
M Thunder Knuckle is +3/-1
I know there’s some gaps because of the start up frames, but Viper seems too far away to poke with cr.mk. And when I try something, she mixes it up with an ambiguous burn kick or seismo hammer and I’m completely mind fucked.
You block. Don’t take the risk. Too much damage on counterhit, too much stun. Both those situations could have been avoided by blocking. If you see burn kick I believe you can go under. If you see ex seismo you pinwheel. Hell you see yellow at all you pinwheel.
Try ex pinwheeling through the knuckle. Might trade or a tight string. If she’s at max range maybe it’s not a true string.
Viper is a match that is 100% winnable. Get a kd, throw mid fireballs on her wake up so they’re meaty and you win. Her reversals don’t work vs this. If she’s on offense don’t get baited and get out of there!
Its not a true string ever. You can back dash(she might catch you then your full screen away from airborne frames), ex pinwheel(trade more than likely), cr.mk(hard reaction but possible). Best bet is block till she cant do it anymore or after the thunder knuckle, if shes tries another cr.mp expinwheel.
When I use Viper (she’s one of my other alts) I find Juri to be quite the nuisance. Also if you haven’t seen the hotaru video explaining the match up. Its a must see. Juri-Viper matchup
Hmmn What characters do you have a sub .500 record against? I just looked at mine and I have Adon 48%, Bison 47%, Viper 45% lol, Guy 40.5%, Gen 28.5%, Honda 28%. Im sure its skewed a lil since I took that long break and when I returned I was getting whooped something fierce.
Lol I got Yang 86%, Fei 73%, Yun 58%. That cant be right. I guess thats psn for you.
Ive been playing the game long enough to have that record skewed. Its different once you know the matchup so that data means nothing. Either way id just pick Abel against Bison, he does alot better.
For some reason Vega aka the Claw match up is pretty easy for me just rush the fudge out of him. But, that fudging Vega claw poke is annoying medium punch after that claw and face mask is done. I’m throwing his behind in the corner and mix it up with throws and punish his wall drive. Chun is different story can’t really shake it sometimes >.< but, Rose is annoying plus I main I know what to expect in the match. Ryu & Ken are fairly easy but Sagat needs little practice. Any tips on Sagat,Chun,Ibuki,and Akuma.
Vega claw spamming is just a free level 1 focus for me. If you’re having trouble with it I suggest using kasatushi to get out instead of trying to outpoke Vega. Kasatushi is also a great way to escape Bison’s corner pressure.
Good Vega players are annoying as hell to deal with, he can rape Juri pretty easily. I’m free vs Vega’s oki game and I suck at teching his kara-throw. 
My tips on sagat is to know what range to be in. Juri’s pokes eat sagats alive but in AE he has some traps up close. He also has his lk xx special back (I believe). I still say her pokes are very good vs sagat.
Sagat you can jump in on for free on wake up. J.hp will cause his TU to whiff. Do it, all day. Just watch for the timing. If you do it too high you wont have enough frame advantage. Learn the spacing. It should be deep enough that you’re safe from TU after block, lp TU gets stuffed and all the rest whiff. That takes away some of the worry in staying in.
When your far, you should NOT be afraid. Dont rush. Be patient. Sagat cant keep you out, remember. Low shots get dive kicked, high shots get dashed. Easy as that. If you wanna mix it up and build meter, kick and throw, kick and throw, mix up your fireballs with dive kicks and kasatushi…keep him guessing. But you can get in whenever, just watch for quick pokes on your approach. Dont jump in trying to get through the wall.
Sagat is very vulnerable to fuzzy guard. If you can jump in on him and you know for sure he’s going to block, keep him honest and take the damage.
For chun, she cant zone you out. Any Kikoken’s get dive kicked. Watch for her approach after a fireball. She cant really do much, except frame trap you. Shouldnt be too scared. You need to strike while she has no meter, and rush her down. RUSH RUSH RUSH!. I perfer to throw meaty mk fireballs on her wake up. Keeps her SBK honest. If you say do c.mk xx low store > mid store, walk back and throw mid fireball…you can be safe against the SBK, it will get stuffed and you’ll be right back to where you started. I like to bait out SBK with back jumps when im sure they’re gonna do it, then ex dive kick for damage. Watch hazanshu habits. We focus crumple those.
Ibuki is tough for me. Her offense is tricky up close. I like to stay back and zone until i know i can rush in and pressure. Same trick with Ibuki as sagat, stay in with j.hp. Makes it whiff. If you block a ex dp, always dash forward. if they throw kunai you’ll dash under and punish hard. Anytime they do her penguin walk overhead thing, if they throw a kunai you can jump j.hk it. You can focus the last hit of the turn kicks, although I havent experimented with this yet. For blocking the kunai, you hatc to watch HER…not the kunai! If you watch the kunai you’ll miss the fact that shes crossed you over and you are blocking the wrong way. There is only like one kunai that is really ambiguous…the rest is not horrible.
Akuma is a pain because his rushdown owns you hard. But, you have tools to rush him down. Your store beats his uppercut, Your j.hp beats his uppercut. His demon flip can be stuffed and punished. When he does farhk and your blocking low you can punish this! No fireballs, you can dive kick them. Air fireballs you can dash under. When he does them to get in, its a bit tough…You gotta block it or kasatushi out of there. You dont want none of the mix up so I suggest kasatushi. You can always ex pin through all his air fireballs. Watch his demon flips. You can dash under but watch if he starts option selecting sweep you. Thats when it gets rough…he knows that he can keep you there with OS palm/sweep.
Duno you should never counter fireballs if they are going to hit you with a normal at the same time.
Yea. I prefer to do it wesker style. Try and go slightly behind them or do it in a way that its unsure where they are going to be blocking. Usually when people have the advantage they’re more likely to block and not mash/jab/throw.
no i was saying that counter gets beat by people doing fireball and hitting you with a normal at the same time.
Is that true? Never seen that >.>
counter has 0 invincibility, its just a very quick focus dash.
Except it doesn’t build revenge meter. 
Would be godlike if it did.
that, would be too good lol.