I personally played fallout 3 first, and then went oblivion after I finished. I felt the complete opposite, vanilla oblivion was extremely empty and uninvolving. I since modded it fully with FCOM and others things and it’s now amazing.
Both games vanilla, fallout 3 easily wins. Even down to the minor inconveniences like user interface. Thing about it is that oblivion is an older game, so fallout 3 was supposed to be a step forward anyway. However the huge modding community for oblivion moves the game past fallout for now, by far. Both games will probably be on equal ground in about a year though.
Although oblivion has one adv and that’s the script extender that was made, and fallout doesn’t have something like that now, so it would limit the type of mods that would come out for it.
Just on consoles though fallout easily wins. Because both games are vanilla.
I dunno, I don’t really see all the replay value in fallout compared to uncharted. Once you see most of the main quest stuff, that’s all there is to see. The side quests felt really unmotivated and yielded little to no reward. Going straight through the main quest is like a 10 hour feat, which is lessened in length by the low level difference of all the creatures you fight. I think that’s ultimately where all the Bethesda games go wrong; by having the enemies level with you they remove the need to venture outside the main quest to level up in order to proceed. For people like me that’s a major let down, since I want to see all the content, but I really don’t feel the need to, I get nothing for it. On the other hand, if the foes didn’t level, I’d feel obligated to explore in order to get stronger. In that way, the game would be longer, more rewarding, and I’d get to see more if not all of it. And to play it just for fun is kind of a non-issue. The dodgy movement mechanics remove a lot of the immersion and the shooting is just plain impossible in heated situations, since enemies are almost always on target (unless you play on pc). It was fun for the duration of the main quest, but I wouldn’t revisit it. I dunno, maybe it’s because I haven’t played the previous 2 games and didn’t get into the story.
Oh, almost forgot about uncharted. It has multiplayer, and movie-maker mode. Nuff said.
You’re comparing a linear, third person shooter to an RPG with literally hundreds of locations, not to mention around as much hours of playtime. BTW, some of the best gear in the game can only be acquired through sidequests(A321’s rifle, blackhawk, etc.) with the exception of maybe the alien blaster. Just seems to me that you’re just not into Fallout 3 as you seem to be with Uncharted. Shouldn’t you be off playing the beta for U2 anyway?
That is like saying “Oh, I beat Street Fighter 4 once with Zangief on medium. There isn’t that much to this game. Its like what, 20 minutes of mashing all the punch buttons? I pretty much saw everything there is to see. If there were more and better opponents or special techniques that were worth using, I’d play it more, but since the fighting is so restricted by touchy imputs and a 2-d plane, there just isn’t much reason to revisit it. Maybe if I played the first 3 games I’d be into it more”
… How are Fallout 3 and SF 4 related in any way whatsoever? One is a game of skill where you compete against LIVE opponents in tournament-like fighting. Every experience in SF 4 is different and you play more to get better at it. In Fallout you’re completely alone in a barren wasteland and fighting AI monsters for no reason (you can’t tell me the game mechanics are deep enough to enjoy fighting these mutants for fun…shit, Oblivion did a better job of that, WAY more fun with the swords and the magic and the bows and arrows). In a game that focuses around exploration and experiencing a post-apocalyptic world, you’d expect there to be more reasons to explore (one example would be having the main mission involve more than just a small section of the map). I mean, the side quests were absolute CHORES. I stopped doing them once I had to escort a kid to his crappy village that took me like 20 min and then find out he was lying about paying me! Then the village asks me to help them from an attack of bandits. I do that, and what did I get? Nada. I felt like dropping a nuke on that fucking town.
I’m not comparing them based on anything more than replayability, which is what this thread is about. Read my previous post and then continue with this one, I’ll wait… OK. Weapons. If you follow the main plot, you get just the right weapons you need to take out the mutants fairly easily while still requiring some skill (laser rifles, mini-nukes, rocket launchers, flamethrowers). What’s the point of better weapons anyway? To make it easier to kill the mutants so you can out 'em in one shot? What then? You pat yourself on the back and go “Man, I really am awesome.” The point of games like Fallout for me is to be engulfed in a rich story that takes you around an amazing world filled with interesting people and great things to do. Fallout got most of these things right, except it didn’t tie them together properly. I enjoyed the story, however shallow the overall scope of it was (the beauty was in the details) but I felt it was way too short and could have covered more area. In short, that’s basically the point I’m trying to make.
Then keep crying, except not here. That’s your problem, not my fault the problems you got with these games are easily remedied and then some, on the PC versions.
Umm, OK. Is that what this has come down to? I’m just stating a point, man. The purpose of this thread was to have a discussion about the replayability in Fallout and Uncharted. I’m just presenting my views and opinions, if you feel differently, by all means state yours. Ad hominen responses like these do absolutely nothing to further the development of intelligent debate. And if I somehow upset you, I really am truly sorry… except I’m not, because that would make you a sensitive ninny. Get your head out of your ass and respond with some counterpoints instead of crying about my “crying”.
Street fighter 4 can be played single player, there is a story mode. Only playing this, is like rushing through the story of an open world game. You can play what you want, but then claiming you saw and did everything is like claiming the street fighter story mode is basically everything SF has to offer. "Oh I played some guy online, but all he did was throw fireballs and uppercut. I felt like dropping a nuke on him. Never played it again because it was such a bad experience."
The side missions yield some of the best weapons in the game some of them have pretty nice perks too. Oblivion was a lot less rewarding, even with full strength, sword skill and the best sword in the game my character did pitiful damage. It would take forever just to take somebody down. I ended up just running past most enemies since I didn’t have any reason to fight them. Morrowind > Fallout 3 > Oblivion.
You’re not stating a point, you’re stating opinion. This is the fallout 3 thread, not the Uncharted thread, the main purpose of this thread is fallout 3 discussion. You off topic, but who cares(everybody goes offtopic man), but to try and act like the purpose of the thread is Uncharted, too? There’s only 1 thing that’s really uncharted in this thread right now, and that’s your stupidity.
Get this, you try and act big using phrases like “ad hominem,” and then you turn around and add homo.
I’m finished with Oblivion now, and I’m back to fallout 3. I got a few days before I travel across the coast for school(goodbye MASSIVE free time), so I’ll be playing. I just found out that Fallout has a script extender for mods too now, and I got that install and put some mods into the game, and I’m about to run that shit back until I either get bored of playing or it’s time for me to go.
I just downloaded an unofficial patch, FOSE, Weapon Mod Kit, Mart’s Mutant Mod, Fellout, UPP Perk pack 1 and 2, Sniper Zooming, Sprint Mod, Project Beauty, Exnem Body Replacer, and MTC Wasteland Travellers.
So basically there’s new creatures in the game, more hostile and non hostile NPCs, the NPCs look better, there’s weather, more perks to choose from, I can zoom further with sniper rifles, I can sprint, I can add silencers and scopes to weapons, and there’s more wastelanders doing random things.
Haven’t started the game up since installing all of these yet though.
EDIT: I think I might put this shit in there called XFO and see whta happens.
Trying to locate a place that I never got through on my last playthrough. I got the spots on the map marked as my lvl 20 perk this time, but I can’t seem to find it
It was a place in the mall area I think. I could hear a guy saying something on a loudspeaker or a megaphone or something and the place was booby-trapped as fuck. What’s the place called? I’ve been trying to get there and see what it was about, but I’m just wandering around in circles and can’t find it.
Also that place youre talking about, with the loudspeaker, I think that’s near the Ranger Compound. There’s some homeless guy there you can tell to run in there, I tried to run in there and got straight blown the hell up. At first I didn’t remember what you were talking about, but then I remember how hilarious that whole thing was.
Yo this modded fallout 3 is so serious. Man the SUPER MARKET is hard as hell, you can die in like 1-3 hits, but you can kill just as fast. And the raiders be using tactics, like hiding behind stuff and using cover fire while another raider run in with a knife. If you get knifed you dead man, you dead.
I took a hunting rifle, and found a scope and a silencer and put them on the hunting rifle, and I can zoom the scope in and out. It’s necessary cause I don’t want to be seen, the raiders be trying to set up ambushes.
One time I got beat down by like 6 molerats at once, pulled the baseball bat out and beat the hell out of them when I got that runback. I got that perk from Moira where if you got radiation your limbs heal themselves from cripple status. I be rolling with advanced radiation poisoning now cause you get shot on any limb you’re pretty much crippled and you start limping and yelling and such. I was fighting a whole battle with a concussion and the screen kept getting white and blurry. So now I just stay at adv radiation so I can recover the limbs.
I remember when I was playing before, vanilla, I never had to worry about radiation or crippled limbs at all, cause stimpacks were EVERYWHERE and you could take hits like a truck even at level 1 on hard. Right now, I wont even consider moving the slider away from normal, and good luck finding a stimpack they cost over 400 too.
Then, if I wait a long time or fast travel alot, time go by and I get thirsty and have to drink alot of water or I start losing PER.
This shit is crazy man.
And lastly, I went into these sewers I never been in before(I know when I played before all I did was identify locations and not even go into them), and inside there was like 15 feral ghouls or more and they moved sloooooow but the only way to kill them was to shoot them in the head otherwise they’d keep coming. It was like Resident Evil.