We have Bloodline Rebellion coming to my arcade in Nashville in a few days, I’m just not bringing it to Chicago. Tekken 6 even BEING there is a bonus because it’s not a cheap board to obtain.
Not everyone would be pleased about Smash rules, just like not everyone is pleased about arcade vs console, but everyone has to live with it.
Like I stated before, if EVO qualifiers are at stake for the game, then I use their rules, if not, then I use the community rules.
I agree DreamT, hey is there any way that the cab will have ports to use our own sticks? That’s how the arcade here in MI is trying to make theirs.
VDO : If my converters work, then yeah, but I think we have to disable 360 sticks from the panel, bot from being used on the converters,
MWC is evo north. In other words, it IS a part of EVO. If evo is running this game, then we also have to run this game, and we have to run it, using the exact same ruleset. Like Dream said, if for some reason wizard dumps the game from the lineup, then we have no issue running it using smash community rules.
As far as the catering comment. EVO and the scene has never been about banning every thing. We have always been about accepting a game, for better, for worse. The only exceptions were bosses, and console exclusive characters. A lot of things in the smash community pretty much goes heavily against in what we believe. I mean, i can hella rig cvs2, 3s, mvc2, etc etc to make it more fair, less broken, more balanced, and less random. But we dont do that, we accept the game for what it is. and if it sucks for what it is, thats when we drop the game and move on. We play on default rules. And even with the evo smash rules, we still arent following our ideals since theres still tweaking to the default rules.
It has nothing to do with hating on smash or any other conspiracy bullshit. We are about accepting the games at face value, and playing them as such. obviously the smash and the rest of the FGC have difference of opinion on this subject on how we view competitive games and how they are supposed to be played.
I dunno, i still saw top players finish at evo. So I still dont see the big issue with items
I will be at MWC to destroy Sabre in SF4 and in ST(yes, I want my runback damnit :mad:).
It’s on!!!
The T6 Vanilla board is actually pretty cheap now since BR is out. Also, BR is just a disc upgrade for the most part, so why are you leaving that behind? BR is pretty much the only reason I’d attend MWC, which is why I have so many questions on it, but if it’ll be single elim either way, then it doesn’t really matter.
Sabre… Yeah, I follow the Evo issues. Dream stated all of that already. My point is that I see no reason to run Smash (at Evo or MWC) if you’re not following community rules. Smash is unlike any other fighter, so “default” doesn’t apply like it does for CVS2 or any other standard fighter. I’d make the same argument in an Evo thread, but there isn’t one for Evo 2009 yet.
i dunno, 1 cabinet for t6 tourney at a major just spells disaster IMO. At any given time we could get 90+ players for tekken. and having t6 or even BR, would make the numbers huge. But running on 1 cabinet, would be a nightmare. We want to do double elimination, but with one setup, i just cant see that happening. Especially when we try to run one tourney at a time, this would clearly interfere with the way things are usually ran.
Who knows, maybe things will change between now and then. Maybe some people can bring some kits and help out?
My god, that is fucking fantastic.
I was nice in my last post, but I’m not going to be in this one.
The Tekken 6 Board is still $3500. No one is buying/donating these things to get more of them there. It will already be in Chicago. BR is not a disk upgrade. It is a hard drive and dongle for $6000 almost. For $1000 more we opted for the full kit. It’s my board at my arcade, that’s why I’m not bringing it. Just having the Tekken 6 there is kind of a bonus tournament like we do for Alpha 2, Alpha 3, etc. We would do single elimination based on the number of entrants because we are confined to using one machine.
This is not a “Tekken” based tournament, we try to add it for some players, but as you said, it falls on the same line as TiT 8 regardless.
Smash is a melee type game. It was never meant to be a serious one on one fighter and you can take that to the bank. We will probably have the game there, but why you are beating a dead horse about this when I ALREADY STATED THAT IF EVO does not hold a Smash tournament, we will gladly have community rules.
Let me see if I understand you correctly…
As a player who is considering going to MWC, you’ve decided you “aren’t going to be nice” when I’m asking very legit questions concerning your tournament; questions that were asked or brought up by others before I said anything? Wow… just wow.
I guess I have all the information I need to determine if I’ll attend. Thanks for your time, patience, and respect… or lack thereof. 
A few things you may like to know:
TiT8 won’t have Tekken 6. SC4 is what may conflict if you decide to hold it. That’s why I was considering traveling to MWC for BR since it won’t be at TiT8. I guess now I’ll just go to TiT8 where the organizers are far more cordial.
Every other US T6 tournament I’ve looked into has been double elimination and on one cabinet.
Excuse me sir you dropped this from in between your legs.
Keits we didn’t get a chance to play any ST together last time we met up, I’d like to remedy this at MWC :tup:
(Also I think I owe you a lunch for my stick crapping out on you, it completely stopped working today ugh)
and does every t6 tourney in the us also host a dozen other games? its one thing if we were holding t6, and maybe one other game or something. But we are a multi game tourney, it makes it that much different than just a tekken tournament. a 90man t6 tourney on one cabinet is a serious undertaking. and we have gotten those numbers in tekken, in very recent history. You simply cannot do that, especially at a multi game tourney. Shit starts to collide like crazy. You need to look at all the facts.
you maybe kinda asking legit questions. but the whole smash argument is a dead horse that we all knew too well. There really was no point bringing it up. It was obviously well known from last year, and this year is obviously no different. We know what to expect, we know what the smash and srk smash like/want.
as for t6, you make it sound like t6 is so cheap that we should just jump right out and go buy some kits just so we can make it double elim. There are no sponsors here. Thiis all out of pocket. 3500 for another t6 kit, or6k for a BR kit…yeah no thanks. Im not a baller like that. I wish i was, but i’m not.
i might not know how dream runs his arcade, but 6+k for BR, he needs to start making money off it, so it would be very wise if he kept it in his arcade, to make as much money as possible, instead of pulling it for a double elim tourney(if we had decided to do double) and hold up mwc and cause clashing issues with the schedule all weekend long.
We have been running this for a long time, we are well aware of time restraints. And making that game double elim and a lot of people show up, would destroy the schedule. You would be looking at atleast a 14 hour tourney. We are not doing that.
Hell you were at CR, sf4 with 2 setups, took over 14 hours, with around 90people. And that included a lot of disqualifications from people that got tired of waiting forever. It was disastrous for players except for the people that never sleep. to a lot of people, that was considered a failure. We dont roll that way. And we dont have the time to be doing such.
it sucks, but thats how it has to be, unless people start hooking us up with kits or donate lots of money. But i dont see that happening, unfortunately =/ Plus I dont really know of many people that like to have 8724687264872 hour tourneys. its not much of a tourney if you have to wait so long, that half the players just decide to drop out and give up out of boredom. We tend to end all of our tourneys in 3-4 hours tops. It just goes against what we try to do.
So I hope you can understand this
Sounds good! Just don’t ask my girl to your hotel room and its on 
Don’t try and be coy or patronizing out here, you clearly stated you weren’t going to MWC because of my “attitude” in the AZ thread in regards to this whole Devastation tournament conflict. I’m not kissing one person’s ass especially someone who now is coming in here clearly trolling. It actually makes more sense for me NOT to have SC4 as to not conflict with TiT but you never read things thoroughly for some reason.
We aren’t a 3D tournament, we have some 3D games as BONUSES. B O N U S E S.
There is no T6BR at EVO. Why would I go all out and bring $$$$$ boards for Blood Rebellion when that is not the main point of the tournament? Not sure how much clearer I can make it.
Also, no one brought up these questions but YOURSELF. It’s called trolling. If you don’t like my attitude, that’s great. I run a fair tournament and a tournament that runs on time. I go out of my way to be progressive so people can use controllers and have a good time, but you’re the only one concerned about BR when I’ve already stated it’s not a main event, and the 1 cabinet they will have for T6 I have to make sure is there in the first place. If it was one of the main events, I would understand your concern, but as a BONUS there is no reason to continue. End of discussion, beaten a dead horse numerous times about this.
You said it youself right here:
“That’s why I was considering traveling to MWC for BR since it won’t be at TiT8.”
We aren’t having Blood Rebellion. No one in the US is going to have more than 1 setup, and as Sabre said, it would be great if we all had $7000 for boards, but we don’t, so it’s going to make money at my arcade that weekend instead.
I’m not disrespecting you, I just think you are expecting to be catered to for a game we aren’t even thinking of having. Even if my friend VICTOR RATLIFF told me he was “thinking” of coming for an X-Men vs SF tourney, but I only had one cabinet and he could not do double elimination, you know what my answer would be? You can run it yourself if you like; so Dr. Dogg, you can run the game yourself and see how fun it is to have 21982 hr tournaments on double elimination on one cabinet, because we like to end things within a few hours, not in a few DAYS.
I don’t recall saying anything about the AZ tournament in this thread. Furthermore, you stopped trolling in the AZ thread and changed the date of MWC, so I assumed the beef on your end was done.
I only thought it fair and respectful to do the same; drop the beef on my end and actually look into attending MWC.
When did I say you should hold SC4 in spite of TiT8 going on? I’m pretty sure I agreed with your above point, but you never read my posts thoroughly for some reason.
Why go through the trouble of running a T6 board when you have so many other games running (as Sabre pointed out)? Evo isn’t going to have Tekken 6 Vanilla, so if you see it as a big enough issue to not bring the current version of the game, why are you even having T6 at all; especially in single elimination format that will obviously attract fewer players?
If you’re going to run T6, run it properly. That’s what I wanted to see and what would’ve made me decide to come. If I was going I’d even run it for you as I’ve run many tournaments in my time.
No one else brought up questions about T6 or Smash? I’m trolling?
I guess the following posts were made by me on ghost accounts?
:looney:
You are very clearly disrespecting me. I posted in this thread as a potential attendee of MWC, with no ill will whatsoever. I asked about Smash and Tekken, essentially repeating what other people had already said in this thread. Yet you attack me and accuse me of trolling.
I’d call that either disrespect or ignorance, and I really don’t think you’re an ignorant person. I just think you’re trolling on me for petty reasons.
Now I’m done here. I asked questions that other people asked before me and was flamed and accused of trolling. I no longer have any intention to attend MWC after getting this kind of response.
There’s no need for you to reply to me because I no longer have an interest in MWC. If you wish to address my concerns, quote one of the other people who had the same concerns as me because I’m pretty sure they still plan to attend.
No, you didn’t say anything about AZ in this thread. I went into the AZ thread after NO ONE TOLD ME that they were going to use my date that we’ve had for 13 years for the tournament. THat is why I don’t understand why you came in this thread. You are saying the same stuff to me that you said in the AZ thread, and always stated you were not attending MWC before you set foot in this thread. Making those same snide styles of questions in the manners you asked after saying the things you previously stated = trolling. And yes, when YOU ASK the same questions that everyone ALREADY RECEIVED ANSWERS TO, but somehow you asked them again = beating a dead horse/no point ESPECIALLY knowing how you acted towards me before.
I am running Tekken 6 as a side tourney because it is there. No one asked you to chime in and complain about it. You were not planning on attending this in the first place from your comments before in the AZ thread. You clearly stated that already, therefore anything you mention in here as someone who was NOT attending the game and NOT playing Smash = trolling.
You also did not know that BR is not a disk, or that Tekken 6 does not use disks in general. Why am I bringing that up? You acted like it was easy to obtain all these items, but when confronted with truths about these things, you try and go back to other arguments that don’t make any sense.
We know you’re not attending, that’s great. No one had anything to complain about but you (who was not attending) so please stay out of this thread and let’s go back on topic to the people that ARE attending with the games we mentioned at hand that may or may not be on the roster this year. If you have not attended this tournament before, you have absolutely no right to say the things you did. Leave your AZ issues in the AZ thread or take it up with Sabre and stop posting in this thread.
That’s all you had to type.
Check your PMs.
Tekken 6 is bad anyway so I don’t see what the big deal is, plus a lot of people aren’t willing to travel for it right now since it isn’t that big right now, since the machines are too far between with namco’s arcade division severly shrinking… it’s nothing like when t5 was new. So enough with the tekken tournament already. They already know it’s not a big deal, the tekken players can just have a tournament any other weekend, and be just as happy. Also SC4 shouldn’t really be at this tournament to be honest with you. It’s a fun game but I don’t think it will be that big of a draw for this event since a lot of the hype over the game died already. Season’s beatings was pretty big, and I think NEC was as well but I don’t think there is that much concern over the game and like Tekken, a lot of people who play that game WILL ONLY PLAY THAT GAME in a tournament, and with a 20 dollar venue fee I just don’t see many people entering it. Now if it’s at evo that would be a different story but I just don’t see it happening.
Those guys are right though, this is a 2d tournament. So if you don’t play 2d games, there is not that much of a point in coming this year. Tekken DR was big a couple years ago (it got at least 80 people) and one of the main reasons was because it was an evo qualifier, and people actually cared at the time. Last year was a relative bust with like 30 something people. I’m suprised they are running anything related to tekken this year, but if it’s there, sure I’d probably enter a single elim tournament since I’ll be at the event for other games.
Wait til next year for Tekken BR. It’s be on console for a few months, it’ll be a big draw again. But this year… no way. Side tournament status for sure.
Syxx: I agree it’s not going to be tournament worthy, and the console version comes out late September, but I know a lot of people coming to MWC probably STILL have not played Tekken 6, and as a side tournament, it will be fine. Heck, if we even get 12 people for the tournament, great, but I know a lot of people that enter would be from the Racine area that already AT the tournament because some of them have played the game extensively.
I have to disagree about SC4, though, its time has not passed, it’s still a new game, and it’s never been at this event before, but it just makes no sense to hold a SC4 tournament if players are going the same weekend to TiT, but then again, I still don’t know EVO’s lineup yet. A lot of games depends on that. TvC would be relegated to being a side tournament instead of a bigger tournament if that was not at EVO, so a lot of stuff depends on what games will be there…
