Sorry if somebody’s done this already, thought I’d try to compile a list of differences between wgf and ewgf
ewgf:
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[]does 100 damage compared to 70
[]is faster (don’t know how much, seems like about 12f startup)
[]has much higher juggle potential: 6 compared to 3
[]opponent is launched a shorter distance horizontally
[]wgf (and the crouch dash) is invincible to all standing and jumping attacks, ewgf is invincible to all of that in addition to non-low crouching attacks (generally crouching punches)
[]different visually (more shocky)
[*]different hit sound effect (more slappy)
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the ability to go through crouching non-lows is pretty huge. reversal ewgf will blast through a lot of common attack strings, like rolento low jabs, everybody’s low strongs, general low jab mashing, etc
completely forgot to mess with ewgf, probably do that later
OK. If i do try to do normal > EWGF and I get mist step, that means I did it too slow right?.
P1 side still kicking my ass (it’s so hard to go back to neutral on p1 side).
Got down EWGF from standing and in combos, but really lost on how to do wavedashes into EWGF. I do mist step, then qcf’s for the dashes. Sometimes I get EWGF when I hit df+p, but other times even when the input is perfect (d, df+p) I don’t get it. Any ideas, or better ways to wavedash into EWGF?
was talkin to jimmy about it yesterday. after getting a few tips from him my success rate has been around 60-70% depending on how i set up the situation.
key things to consider when doing this move:
the df+punch is the most crucial point in doing the move (any punch before the df will get u a crouch punch and any punch after the df will get u a regular wgf).
-figure out how fast u press the button and work accordingly to ur own timing.
getting a direction is a bit slower than pressing the button for me so when i press df+punch, the df motion has already been inputted into the system so my punch is automatically too late which will give me a wgf instead of a ewgf. what i do to compensate for this is i double tap the punch on the d motion (down) so when i hit the the df, the punch is already there. i’ve found great success with this technique.
there are also a few shortcuts to note when doing this move as they might be more beneficial in certain situations (i.e. combos, doing the ewgf from stand position or doing an ewgf from a crouch position):
d, df, d, df will get u a mist dash. so if u press d, df, d~punch, df u will get a ewgf. useful for using kazuya’s cr. forward into ewgf (great footsie imo).
what was also mentioned earlier by hauntedhaus was that u can press f, n, df without pressing the d and still get a ewgf. unforunately for me, this hasn’t worked out in my favor as i just get a crouching punch when i do this.
so whatever works for you, but this is all from what i have come up with in the last 48 hours of practicing this godlike move.
If you get Mist Step ONLY, then that means you didn’t hit punch a second time or way too early. You can hit punch early enough so that the dust from MS never appears. Or you can hit it so late that Kazuya almost fully recovers from MS. It’s very lenient like that. Obviously the later isn’t the true EWGF.
p2 side is easier for me because I actually let the stick go back to neutral when I do the motion. on p1 side, I have a harder time letting the stick going back to neutral so I get cr. fierce
I am definitely press the second punch so I must be hitting the punch too early. I am trying to EWGF from a crouch normal btw.
Here’s a tip for anyone trying to combo into ewgf from normals, it seems doing c.mk x cd, ewgf is easier than just doing c.mk x ewgf, also it adds a bit more range to it, and it still combos. Same goes for any other normal, aside from lights, canceled into it.
The Mist Step doesnt activate until you hit df, so you can actually hold forward to get one of the inputs out of the way, so you only have to worry about 2 more inputs (technically 3,) but you can think about your timing. After you get the timing down, you can do the entire ewgf motion raw, and be able to use it in an actual match. Being able to do it in training mode is better than not being able to do it at all.
On the input screen, you should see f, d, df + p, if you get f, d, df, df + p then its too slow. If you hold down any direction and then press a button, you’ll
get the direction input twice. For example, if you held back and then hit mp while still holding back, the inputs will show b, b+mp.
So the way I do it is that I start pressing punch when after I hit forward, and by the time the punch registers (literally the time it takes for the button on my arcade stick to move down to register to the stick that Im performing a punch) I can get the down and down/forward inputs in. So in my mind, Im hitting f, punch, d, df.
You can NE in this game so it should be possible, but I think the inputs for the ewgf are too fast, at least for my shitty stick (since it takes so long to register button presses that sometime dont even come out,) however you want to NE it cannot have the button pressed before you do the mist step, because the game will not let you mist step if you have a button pressed down before you start the motion.
So it makes more sense to double tap, since you technically NE the double tap and you get 4 inputs for it.
not really a whole lot of new info. there, but I did realize that a good way of figuring out whether your doing the WGF or EWGF is to (as Triforce would like to say, and as noted earlier) “Look at dat Damage, look at da DAMAGE!” EWGF does 100, WGF does 70.