EL Fuerte's Revenge! ala improvement thread

u make it seem like his 360 k grabbin us out of the air is this new horrible thing. its not, DPs stop us from everything including slides. this grab just stops us from goin in the air, i believe u can just crouch this and u can see it on start up. he starts running in one spot, were just gonna have to bait. there should be nothing to worry when all we have to do is stick the the elf game

SSF4 Dragon’s Lair day 2 - Boris (El Fuerte) vs SkatanMilla (Chun): [media=youtube]8aMRgufBCc0[/media] (tight match :amazed:)

Luis (Abel) v Lucho (El Fuerte): [media=youtube]iSDiU6Y6_YY[/media]

Thanks for the new vids. I like that fact that the spark looks to be something I can land every round.

lol yea you might be right, but everyone seems to mention hakan as a potential bad matchup (and it does look that way), dawgtanian also told us to be very scared of him, thats why I wanted a bit more info on it just to see how bad it is (is it on par with his current worst matchups or better/worse). I hope its not worse than a 4-6, we will know soon I guess, the wait is almost over.

EDIT: But it does look like with the improvements fuerte got, he will be able to handle many situations a lot better than before. I have a similar feeling to Arde that fuerte will end up being a very balanced character without having too much of a disadvantage against any single character. The only two that concern me a bit are hakan and hawk, but hopefully fuerte will have an answer to them as well.

But at the same time it looks like bad matchups for Hakan will be ones where he has to deal with fireballs or long distance attacks. I think that for the Fuerte players who don’t want to counterpick Hakan with say a shoto, it will be Fuertes most turtley matchup. I imagine it to be like what the Zangief matchup would be if lariat caught tostada/tortilla/fajita.

My god, what an awesome finish! I cannot wait for tight endings like this in EVO with the low/mid tier characters especially since they got buffed big time.

Imagine seeing Claw, Fuerte, or Guile in the top 8 in EVO. Shit is so hype!! :woot:

like vanilla just said, i can see this match being like a gief match! i never hang out near that guy! i hit and run and im sure most of u do too. we just have to adapt to the situation! dont get so worried haha. just wait till the game comes out and learn all the match ups just like theyre gonna have to learn to play against us.

Look at the damage on Chun! O_O

Imagine how TKD or Tetsu will wreck up the tier list in Japan once Super comes out. :nunchuck:

TKD already demolished the best Rufus out there (MDR) and almost OCVed their team. (If he would have beat the Boxer, Sagat was done for.) I’m scared to see how he can pull of Spark.

Luis (AB) v Luch (EL) video: was I the only one who saw Far Standing HK + Cmk? Didn’t expect that to link!

If the second hit of far st.HK hits, you can link to cr.MK - that’s also in vanilla.

I’ve been in very few situations where I could link that. Thanks, didn’t know it existed in “vanilla?” - maybe I’m pariah of the reason to why regular SF4 is called “vanilla”? Haha. Please fill me in =D

Vanilla is a term to mean plain or regular, or even the ‘legacy’ version.

Is easier to say " I can do this in Super! It didn’t work in Vanilla though"

Sagat’s tiger knee can be punished with the Ultra Spark if you make it whiff with a c.lk and immediately input his ultra.

can someone link me to a vid with c lk making tiger knee whiff! ive messed with it in training and its no good for me so far. since i dont even know wat it loox like im having trouble knowin how to do it!! someone plz help!

I don’t think it works upclose.It works when Sagat cancels light kick from about max range into tiger knee.

Cody vs Fuerte from London: Part 1 [media=youtube]QgNUlThgOls[/media]

Part 2 [media=youtube]FlCRmsu-1JA[/media]

You can make every safe Tiger Knee whiff if you just input cr. LK before it connects with you. The timing is pretty lenient, you don’t have to do preemptively.

holy crap in vid 2 the lvl 2 focus was fast! im so stoked about that!! i hate how slow our focus is in vanilla!! oo and imma try that lk later in training, but no one has a vid of this happenin?

We have official info about El Fuerte on SSFIV!, but it’s in Japanese :smiley:

Some Japan guy here?