EL Fuerte's Revenge! ala improvement thread

Hahaha this has become THE video on footsie tutorials. Love it.

Rightfully so. Watson totally schooled that Ken player. SF2’s speed also makes bad whiffs real obvious.

Mike Watson Footsies Clinical!

From the arcadia post, just confirming what we expected from Fuerte:

Interesting note on priorities and hitboxes - vigilante/pestazoid also said the same thing that his normals being a bit different. RSF seems a bit harder to do so back to the RSF lab for Super. :slight_smile:

Those changes in priorities and hitboxes, are they positive ones? would love to get a bit more details if someone knows them.

that podcast also confirmed that fuerte now has 950 HP

HOT DOG!

Ah so I was right about him having 950 hp. Thats fairly exciting news.

His RSF is much harder, but for anyone who could do 7+ hits before, can definitely do 4 hits at least. I’d say if you’re RSF is on point you won’t notice the difference.

With the stun nerf to his c.FP, it’s going to take about 11 hits of the RSF to stun anyone.

I’m very interesting to learn what it is that has changed with regards to his priorities. Here’s to coping that standard Guacamole doesn’t trade as often!

I’m also hoping that, standing mp, and crouching mk have slightly better priority too.

Honestly I have no idea why they’d nerf RSF. Just… why? Because it was too good? Clearly it was not as Fuerte was low tier. Because in the new climate of SSF4 it would have moved Fuerte up in the tiers too much (which is extremely unlikely)?

Well, is it honestly such a bad thing that Fuerte gets to move up? I’d understand if they buffed everything else and wanted to remove RSF as his ‘go to’ combo, but currently it’s all the damage he has outside of wakeup shenanigans.

I’m psyched for super but some of the decisions made are still making my head ache.

Well, I guess the worst thing that hurt Fuerte is out of this game: huge damage comebacks. FADC Ultra is still in but it’s not such a factor anymore. Fuerte doesn’t have to hold downback as much as he used to and I think he’ll have a little more freedom with his HP boost and with the general toning down of damage.

I can’t rsf now. Oh boy. But I suppose if they didn’t fix reeling animations it makes rsf > crmk/lp/lk shenanigans more important. Guacamole damage boost helps.

Hopefully shower kick remains awesome and dropkick keeps two hit wierdness hits

I was finally able to fix my arcade stick, and I got to say that the wait for SSF4 has made me not to want to touch the game for the time being. Should I just wait for the game to come out/wait for finals?

I hope they fixed the guac trades, as that would make the guac buff a lot more meaningful.

My only concern is how he would fare against the new cast. As for his current matchups, I can already see some improvements in a lot of them, so thats a bit of a relief.

all we can do is wait!!

I’ll work on Rsf when super drops. Otherwise. Work on shenanigans

They nerfed pretty much everyone, if they didn’t nerf the RSF then he would probably be too good.

Its not like you can’t do it any more, but you cant just throw out 10 hits for free anymore.

We can’t fuck up against Chun Li anymore. EX Legs combos into Kikosho. Thunder Thighs just went top tier.

I’m working on footsies in HD Remix right now.

Good on you.

I Think T.Hawk will be our new worst matchup. Command grab that leaves him close, and unless his air dive thinges can be beat by guacamole, it’s 50-50 city.

I’m just following the tutorials on Sonic Hurricane right now. Anyone feel like playing me tonight. Warning, I suck at this game.

yeah hawk will be a bad matchup for fuerte…but also look at adon…his jaguar tooth, kick, and knees are all great moves and his dashes look like they have good range…my quess is this matchup is gonna be interesting

yeah hawk will be a bad matchup for fuerte…but also look at adon…his jaguar tooth, kick, and knees are all great moves and his dashes look like they have good range…my quess is this matchup is gonna be interesting