EL Fuerte's Revenge! ala improvement thread

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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Look at dat damage!! Of buffed Guacamole.

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I definitely don’t remember Sagat being able to punish a blocked Tostada Press with a jab…was that in SF4?

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Back run startup seems to be a bit faster

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but Sagat got a HP nerf so…hard to tell

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I’m pretty sure that was possible.

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is it me or did mk mk look much faster? i dont know but some stuff on there looked quick for elf.

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@00:47 - Target combo looks a lot faster, can someone confirm by testing the current speed? Would be nice if it actually comboed!

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>implying we’ll be using target combo if it’s sped up

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Go back to /v/.

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I am starting to think guac leg throw is indeed buffed after watching that video. I kept in mind that Sagat has 1000 hp instead of 1100, and I don’t recall it causing this damage against current Ryu who has 1000 hp as well. The eyes can be decieving though, especially when someone is wishing for something badly lol

Seeing the nerfed uppercut damage along with the slight buff in Fuerte’s health made me thrilled :smiley:

I will try to check on the target combo in vanilla SF4, and see if there is any kind of difference in speed.

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ok why do people keep referring to vanilla sf4? wats with the vanilla

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So SSF4 = Super Vanilla? ^^

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I was just checking frame data in eventhubs and if ultra spark start-up isn’t changed in the final version, Fuerte is definitely going to be upper or at least upper mid tier.

If frame data on block stays the same with the current normals and specials for the current cast, ultra spark makes a lot of normals and specials very risky on block.

For example, these are the things ultra spark can nullify if they stay the same:

  • Gief cannot use greenhand at all (even with FADC backdash) and he cannot even use cr.HK or cr.MK. And forget using lariats.

  • With good reaction time, a blocked cr.MK from either Ryu or Ken is a free ultra. So Ryu/Ken definitely cannot use cr.HK or even LP SRK.

  • Chun’s cr.HK and far st.HK are all free ultra punish

  • Boxer: this is going to be 5:5 battle or even 6:4 advantage for Fuerte. Once Fuerte has U2, boxer cannot do shit. Almost any type of dash punches and some of his normals (notably cr.HK) are free ultra on block.

  • Blanka : poor, poor Blanka. Almost of his normals are free ultra on block. whiffed electricity with good reaction time is free ultra as well.

  • Rufus: some of Rufus’ most used normals are free ultra on block. Blocked target combo is free ultra as well. And yeah, forget using messiah kick.

  • Honda: no headbutts at all for Honda, even EX one. Far st.HK is also a free ultra on block.

Damnit, SSF4 cannot come soon enough!!!

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Super Vanilla is what I’ll go by when I start wrecking people with Fuerte in about a months time.

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HAHA! Ditto (to 2nd part about wrecking ppl with ELF)! :slight_smile:

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SSFIV - Ibuki vs DeeJay | Makoto vs Cody | Fuerte vs Guile

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U2 punish on Guile’s FA was awesome and did some hefty damage with around 60% Ultra meter!

Also, the full U2 at the end was glorious!

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Look at dat damage!!! :rock:

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Vanilla can mean plain or conventional. I’ve heard it used for that way before SSFIV was announced. Don’t remember for what though.

Ultra Spark is awesome. Definitely in the top 3 Ultras in SUPER. :smokin:

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Ultra spark is awesome. I’m impressed by what can be done with it.

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omg that damage is amazing!