EL Fuerte's Revenge! ala improvement thread

Only on counter hit.

lol, like he doesn’t know

u can actually combo it with far standing lp to cr mk it has to be his lp where he side swipes rather than come down with a down motion

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=210274&p=8569000&highlight=#post8569000

See you.

That was the biggest letdown post I’ve seen in a while.

Going back on topic…

For those who tried the ultra spark, if someone uses it against a jumping Ryu as anti-air for instance, and Ryu goes for EX tatsu to remain floating as soon as he sees it activated, would the spark remain active long enough to still catch him when he comes down?

havnt tryd ssf4 but i highly doubt u2 is active for that long

Oh, true say, I just looked it up and it’s a 1 frame link. I had no idea, thanks for the tip. I was referring to the cl. jab in the video though, cl. jab has to be counter hit.

I also just noticed your handle is Minor Threat (I only differentiate between posters by their avs lol), very nice.

hahah i always just add the 1 in there! most people already have the name minorthreat so i just sign up as m1northreat cause no one ever has it. Oh and im glad i was actually able to help tho haha. usually im the one just reading and taking in info! the reason i know this was cause i tryd it in training once and that crap just wasnt coming out! then is saw it happen in a vid and i was like, holy shit im gonna do this. so i tryd for a lil then realized it was only with far s lp. now that i think about it. i wonder wats the diff between close and far light punch. anyone know this?

Somethings to add from my first post.

The Ultra Spark cannot be used during the peak of a jump in if they are too close. It moves forwards so quickly that you end up not connecting a lot of the time. You have to get used to timing it late.

You can also option select it via a jump in Fierce Elbow (buffer ultra spark, hit all 3 kicks when elbow would normally connect) if opponent does a backdash they get sparked, if they block ultra doesnt activate.

RSF seems more difficult now, close standing fierce seems to push back a little more than before, so we might not see any more 12-13 hit RSFS, 9 is my staple average and I was only getting 3. Although this might be due to the game feeling faster.

Ultra spark can be used to punish crouch tech option select. Link 3 close jabs and instead of a throw at the end, walk backwards and buffer ultra spark, people who option select will whiff a crouching short, hit all 3 kicks when you see this. (strict timing against most chrs).

Ultra spark is too quick to use against adons full screen jaguar tooth, might need to delay more to get it to work. Flying Giga Buster is not dead as I would choose it against adon for sure.

Be scared of Hakan… very scared…

Can you please give more details about this? Does he go under ALL fireballs or just Sagat’s high tiger shot? PLEASE ANSWER THIS VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION!!!:china::china::china:

Uh oh, I was afraid the Hakan matchup was gonna be messy. Pretty sure he’s gonna be my second hand man (Fuerte ain’t goin nowhere), but I’m not exactly looking forward to fighting him.

Hmm, I’m sure once you get used to the timing you’ll be back up to speed with RSF :smiley: I’d be sad if they made close Fierce push back more =/

This is something I was afraid of. I always wondered if that many RSF hits was intended or if they only intended 3 or so.

This has me really worried too. I’m hoping we’ll be able to bring it up to at least 5 or 6 when all is said and done.

By the way Dawgtanian, there’s a SSF4 pre-release tournament in London on the 17th of April. You should hit it up and win with some option select Ultras. :wgrin: And you’ll be able to confirm more changes for us too, potentially. Someone posted a link to the event in the screenshots and discussion thread.

This thread is such a roller-coaster of hype and rage for me

All normals have quicker recovery - Hype
lol Just kidding, he’s exactly the same - Rage
950 stamina - Hype
Nerfed tortilla - Rage
Ultra Spark is awesome - Hype
RSF is harder to do - Rage

I cant wait to just try it for myself. Hopefully I wont have to update my sig to SSF4 and the Fuerte changes land more on the favorable side than not.

Well, I hope RSF is not too different. If 6-7 hits into slide is still managable and not that much harder then it shouldn’t be too much of a concern. But ideally I hope it remains intact, always fun to watch people try to go for 10+ even if it is impractical at that stage with all the damage scaling lol

@vanilla: don’t forget buffed guac :smiley:

SSFIV - Fuerte vs Sagat | Sparring Juri vs Ryu

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Man, it feels good to see Sagat taking that kind of damage from EX Guac.

Man, ultra 2, buffed guacamole, Fuerte’s HP buff, nerfed Sagat(dmg, HP) is going to make the fight 6-4 for Fuerte easily.

And if DP moves lost priority (not just Ryu) across the board the same way they lost damage? Tostada press just became a lot more powerful.