Dont think so. The character would either still be in a reeling animation, or have enough time to dodge/counter. Prolly work on scrubs.
Was it confirmed that it’s a traveling grab? The slide suggests that it’s a hit. If it’s a hit, and if it has the rumoured 3F start up, it would be possible to do cr. forward xx run, stop, Ultra. Hell, you could do shower kick > Ultra 2.
Vega’s U2 is exactly the same in design, which is kind of lame, but maybe they know how it works.
Edit: I’m starting to think it’s definitely not a throw because of the slide; the slide confirms it doesn’t hit on the first frame like a 720, so you could always jump out after the flash. It’s a hit for sure.
But when Seth Killian was doing the Fuerte demo, he said that Fuerte is finally getting “a proper grab” as a wrestler, isn’t that confirmation that it is a grab? I think it will be a ranged sliding grab, hopefully fast enough to punish a lot of the stuff the giga buster couldn’t.
Right, but I think he was describing the look of the move, rather than its functionality. Like I said, if it’s a grab and not a hit grab, it will be fantastically useless. The slide confirms that it doesn’t have 1F start up, which means you couldn’t tick into Ultra because your opponent could just hold up after the flash. There would be no guaranteed set ups, other than off a focus crumple or punishing a laggy move. I’d rather it be a hit grab so I can combo into more easily.
Then again, this is all speculation. Maybe it works in an entirely different way from what we’re guessing here.
EW, my first double post. Gross.
Comboable Hit Grab sounds like something that would benefit us a lot better, empty jump in Ultra works for Zangief with his high health. it would NOT be so good for Fuerte.
well, ok then 
i just copy all this stuff to the ssf4 fuerte thread aswell. so here it is 
first of all: i didnt notice any buffs or nerfs to his normals 
its still not too late to change it. lets still hope for some buffs!
- RSF and cr.mk loop work just fine
- i had the feeling he had slighlty more HP, could be wrong tho. just a feeling.
- ultra 2 is a sliding command grab and awesome at close-range also! its a grab so: unblockable.
i just have 2 videos of me playing rather sloppy but i tried my best at the very laggy tv they had set up there.
more videos to come!
ps.: i also tried myself a little on gen, maybe ill post them too 
videos so far:
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have fun and inspect everything 
i didnt really do that while playing, thats why we made some videos
edit: one new vid of me playing with fuerte.
No changes? :bluu: If all he got is a new ultra, I’ll be mad pissed off.
Positives I can take out of the videos are that full bar Ultra spark looks crazy fast and does about half life on Ryu
Watching the vids…
That opening Dudley move on El Fuerte took off a ton of life. O_O
Also at 3:58…Dudley is pretty darn strong.
Hooray for Ultra Spark being SUPER fast. ^^
Thanks for the vids aerosoljunkie!
I noticed that too ReyArt. I was like… wtf! It was considered a counter hit from Dudley though.
Sad that Fuerte didn’t get much other than a new ultra from what we’ve seen so far… I am sad.
Damn, you get an insanely good set up when you land his new ultra though. They sit there next to yuo for like 2 seconds.
thanks for the vids, aerosoljunkie. i agree with your observation about a possible stamina buff as well. also, it’s too bad you didn’t have a chance to try out Q-bomb.
i had but there were no changes at all… aswell as gordita sobat.
really? oh crap. i guess my only consolation is this isn’t the final build.
thats what i think too. even the mentioned buffs for ken (faster fireball, faster walkspeed) were not in there yet. thats why i dont give up hope for el fuerte
Let’s hope so. I’d be saddened to see that the developers’ favorite character had little to no buffs. Hope they also cut down on Dudley’s damage. He took out a lot of Fuerte’s health.
I still got to say that the game looks faster to me, maybe it’s just smoother animations.
it really isnt faster imo. its just the bad camera
i just noticed there was another guy recording videos, so expect more videos tomorrow or later this night.
also i do have to mention the bad tv again, it was HORRIBLE. only letdown so far madcatz
Many thanks to aerosoljunkie looking forward to more vids.
Dudley looks like another bad matchup… come on Capcom do something and buff up the damage for the luchador!
Not sure about the increased health for Fuerte, but at this point I will take anything. As shallow as an improvement, more health is still better than nothing at all.
Did the rsf feel easier? aside from new ultra and the fact its a grab… i hope he is now 1000 not 900 hp.
Thanks so much for recording; when I opened the Dudley vs. Fuerte video and the first thing I saw was RSF, I couldn’t help but smile. :wgrin: I guess all the balance changes will be added in the final build, hopefully.
So overall, how useful would you say his Ultra II is? Could you set it up easily?
Edit: And does safe tortilla still work? I haven’t watched all the videos yet.