lol that was pretty good. Obviously I’m just going from 3s, but unless Dudley’s normals got buffed to beat shoto cr.mk he is gonna have some problems getting in. And both of the things you suggested would be easily whiff punished for a free sweep -> safe jump from Ryu.
I hope the rose will be useful in some way.
Would it be worth it to practice using Dudley in 3s? Or is his SSF4 incarnation so different that it would be a waste of time?
you’re right. Dudley always had problems with low footsies. Chun’li beat him free if you didn’t parry low. A lot of the characters who linked their super from a low poke could really tear him up.
backswing blow didn’t have much priority in 3s. pretty much ALL low pokes beat it.
Kiku’s pretty much correct. Most characters don’t really have great long low pokes though.
Ryu’s cr.mk is mean. maybe Chun…she’s supposed to be really good in super. with faster FA and not being able to throw his dash punches, Balrog’s gonna be sweep bait ALL DAY.
I guess it just depends on Dudley’s crouching normals. If they can counter poke ryu and cancel into something, we’re in business. I wouldn’t call a lack of low pokes a “glaring weakness” though. Thanx for the reminder though.
if you aren’t comfortable with half circle motions and his juggling concept, it might take you awhile if you just try to pick up dudley when ssf4 comes out. They’ve stated that they are trying to keep him as close to the original as possible within the constraints of the new engine. Playing 3s won’t make you bad at Dudley for ssf4, that’s for sure.
ok does he have counter like in 3s i saw in the one video that he does and it looked good but it was just in the trailer… and did anyone find a use for rolling thunder?
If Dudleys f+hp is anywhere near as good as in 3s. He’ll be fine.
yes he has his cross counter comback.
Dudley looks like safe jump bait no different then Sagat. I predict that Dudley will murder most of the cast, but like Sagat will die to really good low pokes and safe jump shenanigans which opens the door to more ambiguous nonsense and more knockdowns.
Good.
Times 2. I knew it wasn’t going to be useless.
Kokujin will so leave Ryu and come back as Dudley and rape in the corner with rose 50/50 mixups.Gotta love it.
i can’t wait to get my hands on this character. I’m so pumped
Am I the only one seeing Honda as a potentially bad match-up for Dudley?
Doesn’t his f.HP beat alot of low attacks in 3S? I know shoto cr.mk is REALLY low in this, but who knows?
maybe 5-5. But i don’t think it would be too bad for him. He might be able to punish headbutts with ducking straight. I can’t see honda keeping Dudley out or his face and mixing him up. Dudley’s j.hk might be really forward and beat headbutts. I’d say it most depends on the nature of Dudley’s normals. he has A BUNCH of command normals, so, something’s gonna poke headbutts free. SSB on wakeup should be ochio bait. Dudley has a decent amount of health too, he can eat some hands. Since dudley doesn’t need to jump, honda’s ultra 1 is pretty useless. Honda’s ultra 2 is gonna be pretty beast. i can see a jab xx hands fadc ultra 2 craziness. I hadn’t really thought of honda being a threat.
Throwing out f.hp in 3s is extremely dangerous. It’s slow to startup and punishable. and it doesn’t “beat” low attacks…if your spacing is right, you’ll punish low pokes…but the startup is really slow. really really slow.
i can see poking characters with dudley in ssf4 that want to get in with HP, similar to balrog spacing with HP and HK. I don’t know the range of HK, and it’s value was much higher with parrying. I can’t see a shorter poke like that really transitioning to ssf4 well. But they might’ve made it reach further. There isn’t much real info on his normals at all so, i could be completely wrong.
Mr Gotch how about standing FADC comboes into it? like could you use the FADC system to re-create the epic Ippo perfect dimpsey roll combo?
S.HK xx Ducking upper (dont launch in 3s if it hits grounded) FADC rolling thunder would be the notation did you see if something like that would be possible?
if upper launches even grounded now how about ducking streight FADC instead?
the end result should look something like [media=youtube]eQZW8I3BP5g"[/media] a guy can dream but im actually very interested to see if thats possible.
Thinking about changing from dhalsim to dudley.
Main reason i mained dhalsim was because hes not execution heavy, i like mind games and reading the opponent. So, should i change? I know dudley has an awful lot of target combos and watnot but he doesn’t seem to hard.
He might not be very execution heavy but some of his juggles require strict timing.
did i miss the part of the discussion where you guys find out Dudley’s trade DP is the same as SFIV trade ultra.
You forget the Saikyo master, Dan can EX Gadouken FADC > Shissou Buraiken, it is very tight though 
Still I have to agree, I don’t think he’ll have anything with enough hit stun for it.
i knew there was probably one haha. Dudley doesn’t know Saikyo!
so, after watching some vids, i noticed that they seemed to have toned down his f-hp. And actually, all his pokes seem kinda short compared to 3s. His arms just seem shorter. i don’t know if that’s just him fitting into the new system, or his pokes really aren’t that great in ssf4, but it might prove troublesome. I’m not too worried, but a lot of his specials in 3s had a lot of startup frames and you had to really set them up by canceling from pokes. I wish they’d release more info or some decent vids of people who aren’t gutter trash playing Dudley. I can’t wait a month. GGPO isn’t keeping my attention.