Thanks for the compliments. I try to keep things at the level that I would want to see them. There are a lot of condescending people around here but I actually post here for fun.
I’m using a M:F DB15 cable. It’s enough for you 4 directions, 8 buttons, Start/Guide (Select) and Ground. Here’s my project box thread.
Another forum member named Bomberman made that guide. Check the first few pages of Tech Talk for it.
Yeah, use an official Sony PS1 pad. I have no clue if the Nubytech is common ground which is required.
Feel free to send me a PM if it looks like I neglect this thread. I have a tendency to miss replies to it.
I had built a custom stick for my 360 using a official wired xbox 360 pad (late version with common ground) and all was good…then I found a PS1 dual shock pcb (A series late version) from an old project and after reading some of the threads on multi pcb’s, I got excited and decided to add the PS1 pcb to my stick.
I set it up like this diagram, http://kenny.yeager.googlepages.com/schem.png with one exception, this was to join the common grounds at the block connector as the xbox pcb has already been glued and the PS1 has only one out for the common ground (it’s the soliderless hack).
When I tested, the inputs were all over the place. The 360 didn’t work properly and after a short time it acted as if the guide button was constantly held down and the PS1 pad would reset games to the title screen when some buttons are pressed and the directions would work, but if multiple directions were pressed such as up back, a button would also be activated.
I exspect it is due to the ground setup but as my orriginal common ground point on the 360 has been glued over I was wondering if I could go from the PS1 conmon ground to a different common ground point on the 360 pcb and then from diferent common point on the 360 pcb to the block connector.
I know that might be difficult to understand but any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
Well I just tryed the ground setup I mentioned above and I still get the same results. I just hope that at the end of this, if I still can’t get it to work, that I can goe the 360 pcb working on its own.
sounds like you might have gotten the power points confused. make sure you’re soldering to the proper voltage points or you’ll get insane stuff going on. You can always use any of the common ground points as your “main” common ground. I actually had to use a second one on the ps pad because of a mistake I made and it worked fine.
Well I shouldn’t say fully-functional since I never even attempted to get the LED’s working. I also ripped out the headset port since I use a wireless one anyways. It gave me plenty of room for wires and the terminal. All the other buttons, including triggers, work perfectly.
I would NOT recommend doing this, but I guess most of my trouble came from the fact that the first FOUR playstation pads were either broken or didn’t work the right way. All that extra wire makes for a much heavier stick
^ I love how this barely fits in the case. It’s chock-full of win.
And yeah, definitely test your controllers before wiring them. I bought another DS controller at a pawn shop yesterday and had the guy hook up a PS2 for me to test it on. It looked like hell but all of the inputs worked fine.
Luckily I have a bunch of friends that kept their old ps1 controllers. Also lucky is that I still work at gamestop part time. I screwed up the first 360 pad and put it all back together and returned it for another one because it was “broken.”
i have a pelican ps2 stick, and i just plan on using a converter to use on a ps3. can i just add a 360 pcb in it? then technically it will be a dual mod?
Hi guys, need help before I fry anything. I got lucky (at least I think I did) and picked up a PS1 digital controller. It has NO analogue. It is an official pad with the “SCPH-1080 M” designation on the back of the controller. The pics of it is the same as here: http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram4.jpg
My goal is to have the most diversified stick in 1 housing. I choose a PSX pad as there are millions (exaggerated) adapters which can be used in most systems, in other words psx controller seems to be the most diversified controller out there…
Question 1) Can I use this pad to combine it with the MAdcatz SE or TE 360 versions as shown with the diagram on page 6 that Squeakychu illustrated or do I need an analogue ps1 controller?
Question 2) If I do wire it up as in the illustration on page 6, How should I expect my turbo and guide panel on the SE/TE to respond when I am using the PS1 pad after all is wired up?
Oops… last question…on the SE, with the wire facing the back, which set of rails on the terminal block are + and - ?? IS that illustration accurate which indicates that the 1st line of terminals closest to the plastic casing is all negative for the buttons?
Thanks to you all! :lovin:
EDIT I got it working! Oh the turbo panel doesn’t work with ps1 pcb…fyi.
hey kyle thanks for this tutorial. its really great. i see you said you have a Db15 connector coming out of the stick now. really noobish question but how do you use that to plug into multiple systems and how is it wired up. if you cud post a pic that would be very helpful thanks
Nice work i am just wondering about one thing on this diagram http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9123/wiringun8.jpg i am planning to only use the ps1 ds for this a tempt so where exactly is the ground you used to daisy chain the whole controller i see it is pointed to the up on the d pad but can you confirm it thanks, oh yeah can you use the left,right bottom part as soldering points as ground. Below L1,L2 and R1,R2 thanks.I have this model can you point out which spot can be used for ground, http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram7.jpg.Anyway to get the L3,R3 to work on buttons or is it not possible right now, i know that dragon ball z tenkaichi budakai 3 needs it, oh yeah thanks kyle i see you around these forums a lot.
They are hooked up to little project boxes like in this thread. Send me a PM and I’ll take a picture of it when I’m at home.
No problem. Ground is down and left on your diagram. Scrape the black pad under the red circle and that’s your ground. I tried wiring up R3 before and it didn’t work. I don’t know if there’s something more that has to be done to make it work.
I have a question to people who have dual mod’ed their joysticks to play on 360 and PS2/3. Can you plug it into both the 360 and PS2/3 and get it to run them at the same time?
I can explain why I want to do this. Basically a couple of people are saying that there is a timing difference between the 360 and PS3 versions of SF4. I discovered this timing difference once I got a LCD monitor with no lag on it. The difference is really slight, but it is in there. Alot of people don’t believe me so I need to figure a way to show them in a video or something that there is a difference. What I plan on doing(if it works), is to have both versions of the game running at the same time but being controlled by one joystick. I will input a simple 3-hit combo that will work on 360, but since there are timing differences, it won’t work on PS3.
So, before I start digging out my soldering iron and spending alot of money on this, I just need to know if this is even possible…or do I need to come up with another method to show these timing differences between 360 and PS3 SF4.
EDIT: ah, I believe we found a more simple solution to test the timing differences between the 2 consoles(set training dummy to constantly jump on both consoles). So it looks like I won’t need to do this joystick mod. It would be nice to know if you can control both systems at the same time though.
I got my r3 l3 to work, but i haven’t hooked it up completely just testing one at a time but all the buttons work.I know most games don’t even use the l3 r3 only game i know uses it is dragon ball z series,so far everything is going according to plan my x-arcade is going 6 feet under any day now :D. good case to mod with that the only plus i guess.Oh yea one more thing does anyone know where i can find an x-arcade dual joystick template been looking for some time now,planning a makeover on the whole x-arcade got happ buttons and joystick for it works really nice. thanks again
so i finally got my HRAP2 Dual Modded with help from my brother. It was simple, but took a while. For people who don’t know where the power source is, it is the black wire from the power strip. I just soldered on the backside of the PCB where the black wire was. You can find ground easily but just playing with signals and ground. From there everything else should be a piece of cake!
referring back to kyle’s image of the 360 and ps1 pad wired to the terminal strip, did you solder the wires into the terminal?
I can’t see from the picture but I"m assuming you soldered the connections or you attached a connector to those like a ring end and connected to the terminal that way.
