Dual-Modding a PS2 and Xbox 360 Stick (Updated)

Man… I love what you’ve done with this thread. But… uh… I don’t know what I’m doing. That was just a schem I made to make sure I was on the right page. It should work, but I’ve never actually implemented it. :lol:

Also… like I said… I love what you’ve done here. Any chance you plan on taking a standard 360 FightStick and dropping a DualShock in it? I was speaking with someone on IRC about this… he said that someone else (can’t remember who) was going to do so. I’d like to see a step-by-step tutorial for that procedure when the FightStick is available for hacking. If you don’t plan on doing that… and nobody else is quick to step up… I guess I’ll be the one writing the FightStick-specific tutorial.

Random question: Where can you get terminal strips? I totally didn’t think of using something like this on my last stick, but If I am going the dual PCB route I will definitely want one.

They’re a whole $3 at Rat Shack: 274-679.

whats a wiring diagram?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=132472
this?

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Hey I’ve got a MAS Stick that’s currently hooked up for DC and PS2. I was going to try to just pop in an Xbox 360 PCB, but apparently the MAS boards don’t have a common ground. I was informed that without a common ground I can’t have dual PCBs. I’m actually fine with that as I haven’t used the stick much for either of those systems anyway. I’m going to take the board out and since it’s nicely labeled I’m pretty sure a relative novice such as myself shouldn’t have much difficulty doing the necessary mods.

I’ve got some questions:

Would it be possible to make the joystick wireless?

I hear sometimes there’s “black stuff” on some of the controllers. What’s the best way to remove that?

Lastly what’s the best way to take out the motors for the vibration?

edit: I’m not sure what a terminal strip does. Is it in effect a splitter? If so I think I may put one in now to save myself some trouble in the future if I do decide to do the dual PCB route.

If I wanted to add in a Cthulhu board on top of the 360 and PS2 would I need to connect the 5v on the board to the 5v and 3.3v on the other pads?

Basically something like this (bad example) that shows which solder point is what:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3755/hrappcbzq3.jpg

I’ve seen others report they did it. You’ll need to account for changing or re-charging the batteries without having to disassemble the stick.

Scrape it with either a razor blade or a small flat head screwdriver.

Snip them off with a pair of wire cutters of scissors. They aren’t needed and there’s no adverse effect from removing them.

Yeah, exactly. It combines the two buttons/directions from your pads to work with a single button on the stick.

you have the ground and power mixed up.

I’d recommend posting any ‘technical’ questions like this over in the thread where Toodles posts. You’ll need someone like him to give you a qualified answer on this.

Heh, I was just drawing circles at random to illustrate what I was asking Dan for. :wonder:

haha, just didn’t want anybody to fry their pcbs on accident. :looney:

but yeah, everything else can be traced by matching what corresponding wire goes where.

Yeah, god help anyone who thinks that’s a real drawing. I could sort out the buttons by trial and error but I’m not as certain about the power. Surely someone has mapped one of these out before.

Oh another thing. I’m looking at the bottom of my stick, and I see that it only has one solderable ground wire. It looks as though the grounds for each button were daisy-chained into one wire. Will this be a problem? Do I have to undo this and make an exclusive ground for each button going to the PCB?

It’s normal to have a single ground for the entire stick. Post a picture and we should be able to tell you what’s going on.

http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/40247/2240596120084014115S600x600Q85.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11604637@N04/2617164931/in/photostream/

is this it? :confused:

Hey. I sent you a PM. You need to find something like my crappy drawing that has the actual labels for the points. In other words, this circled point is X, this is Y, etc.

I bought a new common ground Mad Catz pad and got it wired up. I’m gonna overhaul this thread with pictures when I have some time.

Do you happen to know if it’s at all possible to get LT and RT working in a dual PCB stick? I got the buttons working fine on the 360 PCB with resistors, but when I try to use the PS2 PCB it makes whatever buttons connected with LT and RT always active.

So is there someway to make the LT and RT connections not have ground signals so I can combo it with PS2 buttons? fscklye, toodles, anyone?

Just quick noob question regarding building a custom stick for my 360 alone without a dual mod for the PS2.

I have modded a few stick before but that was 5 years ago. The last mod I did was a Happ mod for both my Real Arcade and SFAC stick, so I have some knowledge of this but not really since modding is easy and building a stick from scratch using a current PCB is not.

Anyway, back when the 360 came out no one has made a custom stick on day one. Now I see them being build all the time. So can I simply use the PCB of a 360 wired pad (http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/360_diagram1.jpg) and buy my regular Happ parts to make a custom stick or even Sanwa parts?

Basically will the whole thing work after the job is done right or is building a stick from scratch for my Xbox 360 out of the question, especially for a first time user?

Toodles may know this. I don’t wire triggers.

I’ve read your post multiple times now and I’m still not 100% certain what you’re asking. Maybe I’m just too tired.

Yes, you can build a custom stick and wire up a MS 360 pad. I could do one of these now if I bought the box off of someone. Here’s a tutorial for example, which shows how to wire a 360 pad to a SFAC stick. It’s not especially hard if you can solder.