Dealing with bums/homeless people

the ones by the liquor stores are great

common tactic for under 21 kids is to pay bums to buy them their booze

its win win. kids get drunk and bums get money. i’m all for bums earning their keep. none of this free handout bullshit.

bumfights!!!

What about the veteran beggars? The ones that sneak in how they served for the country.

I’m like…where is your family?

Lol I’m in Canada. No wars to be vets from.

I had this one crackhead chick ask me me for a couple of dollars after sticking half her arm down her throat to puke…her arm COVERED in barf. I just lol’d and walked away.

Couple of dollars? GTFO

Thats what I mean. Back in the day you just wanted something. Now days people want what they want.

What you need a coupla dollas for? When I think about all the times I was hungry I can always remember asking for someone to get me something to eat, not for money so I could get me something to eat.

heh, you guys have the bums that use the liquor tactics? Just the other day a bum was near an atm asking for money. Top tier shit right there.

Yeah there is this old dude from Walmart, w/ a fucked up limp begging for money all the time…He has a signed something like “I fought for you”


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WTF move of the week?

i literally almost fought this russian fuck who did that. Im at the atm, he walks up on me, and talks to me. Fuck that gypsy pickpocket bullshit. I made sure I faced that fucker and told him to get back or I would end his life. My buddies stepped in too. Seriously, dont step near me at a fucking atm, I’ve killed for less

Whether they are cons are not, I will give them a few dollars. Helping the needy makes me feel good. Sure, there are some homeless that are cons, but I really don’t care. My mindset is pretty simple. I will help anyone that is in need on the streets. When I see an elder trying to reach for the top the shelf at Target, I happen to be nearby, I walked over and offer help. Same goes homeless people. Most of the time, they don’t even have to walk over to me, I’d walk to them and greet them with a smile and lend them a few bucks. That’s just me. :pleased:

“I will help anyone that is in need on the streets.”

this is why your named TheWanderer…

I tend to give what I can spare, if I can spare nothing ATM, then I won’t give out anything. However, that isn’t likely the case with me and I usually give out something to homeless people. I easily feel that misfortune can strike anybody at anytime, and you could end up in the very situation these people are in–on the streets having to beg for money just to survive. Not my place to judge anybody how they spend the generosity they’re given, I give out in mind of helping where I can and feel blessed for my intentions at the end of the day.

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he had better version on CC.

this is altruism I can get behind. even though I don’t agree with giving bums money. actually, I don’t believe in giving anyone anything

So I’m 28 now, and up until I was about 26, I used to always give bums money… and I’d always feel like a COMPLETE BITCH after. Because I knew deep down I’d just gotten taken advantage of. I was their mark. I was a fresh-faced young white dude, driving a decent car, who appeared to have showered in the last week, so I was a target.

After years of this, I finally got pissed and decided I’d never give a bum another cent.

Here’s how I handle it:

-Avoid acknowledging them as much as possible. If they start yelling “Hey! Hey! Excuse me!” I don’t look at them. Only if they get right up on me and make themselves unavoidable do I glance in their direction and I still avoid eye contact, because I do not want to give them any sense that we have a connection. This is a non-encounter.

-Be polite and respectful but also assertive. To start, I simply say, “Sorry, sir, I gotta go.” I used to say “I only carry debit” but then I had a bum who told me “It’s okay, you can go in the store and use your debit card to get cash from the machine!” So now I don’t even try to make a maze of excuses. I simply avoid acknowledging them, and if they pester me, I tell them I have to leave.

-If they persist, I simply say, “Sorry, sir, I can’t help you.” At this point, you’re probably off their list as a potential mark and they will move on to the next one. “But please suh! I juss need a few bucks foh gas!” “Sorry, sir, I can’t help you. Good luck.”

So basically, you disacknowledge them as much as possible. You never escalate the encounter. If they escalate it, you remain firm and assertive.

Sidenote – Something similar happened to me early this year when I was with my girlfriend at the time. We were in a Barnes and Noble browsing through the Walking Dead comics. This aggressive salesman comes over to me and my girl and tells us “So, you like that one, huh?”

Me: Yeah, I’m a big fan of the show! Wanted to check out the comics.
Him: Yeah, that’s the big compendium with all the issues. I would get that one if I were you.
Me: Oh, cool, I’ll keep that in mind. I will probably get it one day. For now we are just looking.
Him: What? No way, you have to leave here with something! :wink:
Me: Haha, nah today we are just looking.
Him: Nope, the rule is you can’t just look, you have to leave with something. :wink:

Now at this point he thought he was being cute, but he was seriously grating on my nerves. Basically if I caved in and bought anything, not only would I FEEL like a bitch, but I’d also LOOK like a bitch in front of my girlfriend.

So I realized I was dealing with a panhandler here, just in another form, so applied panhandler tactics.

Me: Sorry, man, can’t do that today. Thanks for your help, though. (cutting eye contact and pretending he doesn’t exist)
Him: But you really should buy that book, you will love it.
Me: (motioning to girlfriend to leave) Take care, buddy! Bye!

What a blowhard that guy was.

But that’s what it’s all about…having boundaries and exercising them even when people try to make you uncomfortable and feel guilty.

I remember a couple years ago while watching TMZ the paparazzi was interviewing homeless peeps while waiting around to catch a glimpse of celebs coming out of restaurants and the homeless dudes were being asked how much net gross they were pulling by begging and a few stated somewhere between 15 hundred to 2 grand a month.
The photographers were like "wtf?!?! how?’ and the bums were like "it all depends on the spot where you beg."
This explains bum fights.
Why they fight.
Fighting for profitable corners.
Sorta like lions fighting for good hunting territories.

mmmmm. after watching that…since I live in NY, I seriously started contemplating dressing as a bum and finding a really good spot to beg. like around celeb apartments or around wall street etc etc…but my mom talked me out of it cuz she said I may get shanked in the kidney by a real homeless dude trying to take over my profitable posh spot. lol lol. yeah.

pretty much this.

So, what if the bums are legit homeless and moneyless?

You made an account AND necro’d a thread just to post how much of a pussy you are ‘used to be’? GTFO.

I know people who stopped working jobs to support their dreams and went into panhandling/subway performing. On some weeks they bring home more than I do. It’s nuts.