Of course I read his post, what else would I be on SRK for? I agree with most, If not all of his points, but the fact that you can never trap bison and if you play GOOD bison’s they do not rely on cr.lk xx lk sk at all, they play footsies and smuggle in some bs frame traps, such as cr.lk > st.hp so yeah.
5.5 - 4.5 at best. I’m allowed an opinion.
lolz you’re basing off your opinion on a friggin frame trap?
also son hear this,NO one in this game can trap bison for free,amidst his teleports and ex moves,he is one of the best escape artists in the game.
and btw what kind of footsies can bison play on vega?i already told you that this is one of the few matches were vega needs to be sitting with a down back charge right?if you do that most of his sthk,crmk into combo bs can be eliminated,stuff like that can only happen only if you start fishing for kara throws etc from sweeping distance(which you shouldnt).YOU ARE GOING TO LOOSE,if you approach this match like you do against a shoto and freely walk around the poke range(which you should be doing against a shoto btw).vega’s normals being just as good plus the fact that there is always a danger of claw jumping in on him,turns the ground game hugely in your favour.his jump speed and arc is so ass and slow that you can counter them with your aa jump throw/mp/mk on reaction.on the other hand he cannot aa counter jump your rock like jump arc,and has no other decent option except for a expsycho,dashunder or backdash/tapdash(which is what most of the intelligent bisons would go for).But the point stands that bison can random in during a ground game by using psycho crushers and scissors kicks,which is exactly the reason why you should take this match passively and kick into offense intelligently.
learn to block and tech throws and this matchup is most definitely in your favour.
ill say it again,any bison player who isnt a noob that goes up against any vega player who isnt a noob WILL tell you that this matchup is in vega’s favour.
So you are telling me that this went from 7-3 /6-4in Vanilla to 4-6 in Super? I very much doubt it. Sure Bison is beyond free on wake up (provided you used the correct knockdown). You can meaty him, and if he does anything to escape you can put him in that situation again. Blocking really kills Bison, but Bison doesn’t have to attack, and by the sound of what you said, you’re banking that the Bison is a very aggressive one. 5-5 at best, but only if he is being aggressive. Once they start being passive there isnt anything you can do to him with out taking a risk.
Lol the Bison matchup’s in our favor now? Who brought the crackpipe x_x
what about EX head stomp?
Exactly
Laxlight man, you need to play some good bisons, honestly brah.
I’m pretty sure that unless he was expecting the jump you usually have enough time to land and block it.
You should be grabbing those anyway if he does it.
LOL ex head stomps? are you guys fucking kidding me?and im to play good bisons?HAHAHAHAHAHA
first of all,if a bison does ex headstomps on wakeup he’s a dumbass,second of all,i clearly talked about how you’re supposed to jump in on him during a GROUND GAME,which is when the bison player would be looking to get in on you or viceversa(a scenario were he wont be holding charge).if he sits down with a charge,you’re supposed to sit down with a charge,which is the reason why its very important to have a life lead.
pedoviejo seems to know what hes talking about,YES,whenever he tries to get in,you’ve got to be on the offensive and shouldnt let him get any damage(and instead inflict damage),everytime he gets in,he should loose health,he sits back with a charge,you sit back with a charge(assuming you’ve got the life lead).
im saying this for the last time,this matchup is 6:4 in claws favour,its a pity that no claw/bison player on srk understands the matchup enough to second me.BUT im pretty sure that it’ll be established shortly.
for the people who were lazy to go through my posts,claw gained the upperhand in this game because his crlp keeps bisson from doing his scissor kick loop,it becomes more of a mind game to him compared to us.this i believe is the major turning point in this matchup.
honestly this is the reason why i dont post here,im just going to keep the mu discussions on the walls of blaze and other dudes,its pretty stupid when people pose a mu related argument without understanding the basics right.
That’s this place.
Thats why people stopped posting all the good stuff in here. People like to say their say, and yes your welcome to your say no matter how stupid.
but dont, you kouryuu sasaki and joz need more post’s on your guys level. probably missing all the strat discussion of vanilla days though.
My two cents on Vega vs. Bison…
I think its in Bisons favor.6-4 IMO
Once Bison gets Vega in the corner and starts that Bison pressure theres not alot that Vega can do except just guess correctly, Bisons scissor kick is indeed “un-fuckwithable”.
That is why laxlight got pissed off. You are stating that this and this alone makes it impossibly hard and unwinnable, therefore all other things are not valid. Because often it comes down to that. That this frame trap, or getting cornerd = insta lose. that can be said about everyone. He stated cold hard facts based on option, tools, and likely scenarios arising and gave practical solutions and outcomes to those. While you guys simply said, no because once he is cornered he is dead. Not possible.
whatever though take my advice or leave it. Its just food for thought
Question?
Why would you be cornered against Bison?
Answer; because you put yourself there. Not Bison, Bison cant do that, he has no normal or special that forces you to move back. He isnt cammy or Rufus.
But Pedo your analysis is too hard to understand :l
It’s easier to go to the corner and get raped 
/>_>
>.> i just asked a simple question. i didnt ask for ridicule or a lecture. i asked because that’s the only move that’s been giving me any problems at all.
ooo he told youuuu
it was directed at chucky.
vega’s jump arc is only vulnerable when bison initiates his ex stomp when you’re just about to come down from the apex of your jump,which just means that you’re not timing your jumps properly.oh and stuff like neutral jumping in the corner etc also looses out to the headstomps,it should be noted that a good bison player would only use his headstomps when he has trapped his opponent in the corner.
I caught a Bison the other day trying to meaty crossup PC me and i auto corrected SC’d him.
joygastic
yeah usually that’s when i see them. i’ll have bison in the corner then end up getting thrown in myself (gotta love online tech timing >.>) I’ve been trying to figure out a way of dealing with ex headstomps other than blocking so that i have another option. air throws usually get stuffed on my way up, nj normals lose to it and U1 gets me clean outta the corner but goes right thru the bastard. so the only 2 options i’ve seen is block and backdash and backflip (a no no). i have no problem blocking it but it doesnt put me in a better position other than my opponent burning meter.
will use
Nope.
I just said that can give Bison the edge.
Im not here to argue.
good day sir.