Dance with the Claw: Vega Match-up Guide/Discussion

yeah we should i’ll invite you know that i got my own profile back. Sorry i didnt accept the first one, but my dad denied it cuz he didnt know who you where.

Is GT safe on block against Vega or something,btw? It seems he can launch his EX Messiah Kick for free after that. Goofos noob here.

you guys do know that if messiah kick is thrown, you can block it and durning the second half of the move back dash, and insert move here, 4 punishment

Overhead kick doesn’t punish backdash? Hmm…

not during training, because when i back dash im out of range. If by chance it hits (i do hold back for half a second so i should check this out) you can block, then grab, followed by wall dive trap, or bnb of choice. oh and if he has meter on block dont try anything but a jump over and back dash on land to make him whiff something.

One more thing. Zangiefs like to jump then grab right/pokexxlariat? you can back dash and punish, so yeah one more thing to stick it to him. but be on the look out on which aerial he uses. If he uses a light attack its a tick, if its deep though you can back dash and be safe. If its heavy and not deep its most likely a tick or followed by a cr.lp xx lariat/ spd, if its deep then its going to be a block string so yeah more things to look at people

High level tournament players don’t let this happen as often, but really it’s whatever works for you. I am just trying to stem the non-tournament level advice I see now and then.

yes but we forget who we are using here. Its so easy to to do this on vega. And with one knock down vega can lose so much health due to no escape move. No invul frames, so who wouldnt be tempted to do this shit, and if by chance at any high level play the guy throws this (even in high level shit is thrown out) just knowing this insignificant low tier advice can win you a match. Just saying.

you guys want to know a secret?

Do you really?

Well you know that Dhalsim fellow?

If he teleports behind you, simply jump and grab, and you will knock him out of whatever he was doing.

Take that Dhalsim

Um… I posted about that in the Vega match-up thread that I made back in November… Before console was even out… Doesn’t work exactly as you’d think though. You can’t air throw him if the teleport is done right off the ground. The best viable option off a general reaction to a teleport is to just hit cr.mp.

i found that cr.mp gets stuffed usally because people abuse that air teleport that looks like ground teleport. I do it when i see puff clouds comeing out of his feet then he teleports, that when i do it. its a reaction thing. If i do it by mistake i throw a move that covers me and either go for a tick or string or gets me away. But i guess that was already known such an obvuis thing. never read the match up thing though to pick up things like that, i should read it.

Blanka and You

Yeah we hate the green bastard. But guess what here are so me tricks in case you have not heard of or tried these because they simply seem to stupid to try and do.

If you EX wall dive and Blanka elec’s you or EX Ball UP you can grab him out of it. Yes you can just did it in training mode. And if you feel like that is to much work because of hit box dynamics try the double slash. That move is seriously so awsome, knocks down so many move, but timing is strict. practice with super then work with EX the regular, oh and its easier if you aim for Blanka’s back, he doesnt control as much space with Elec that way

I had no idea, I need to go try that tonight

for over head you have to time it or you will get hit, yeah so watch out for that i should have said that before.

idk if this has already been said anywhere but

if a blanka tries to chip u to death with ultra, or throws out random ultra…

if you’re about 1 character width away, pause for JUST A FEW frames after startup, then jump (slightly before he goes into the air) you can airthrow him

and if you are closer just slide under him

You need to backdash first though to avoid getting blockstunned by the first low hit of his Ultra.

yeah I just got handed by a cammy player, and the match up info, it doesnt quite work like that. Good ones wont drill to close space, and jump in at you, in fact Cammy is so much more capable, and her block strings are more complicated, she can easily frame trap you, FADC doesnt make downback the solution, and ticks make it even harder, etc.

Here are some matches agianst this cammy player, easily on of the best ive played, and he easily out played me. couldnt play footsies, or other things because of cammy’s nature.

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yeah link to the other ones to see the rest.

I think against happy dive characters like cammy and rufsu your game is going to revolve around cr.hp since it comes out fast and stuff dives. That and avoid confrontation.

one more thing we need a thread discussing back flip, seriously if used right its going to be a big part of Vega’s game.

hey gunner I’m Templetron from the gamefaqs boards, I made that thread back in the day with the videos in it and you commented on them. whats good dude?

pedo you should be aware that while back dashes punish what most players normally do (say one hit then a special move) there are players who expect the back dash and punish it all the time. just about any body’s standing roundhouse / honda headbutt did that shit to me all the time. It’s not so simple.

Also I have the devices to record videos but I can’t seem to get them working on the PC. Once I do I’ll make a Vega training video.

Fuck Zangief, fuck Rufus, and fuck jump happy people. its not fucking halo

now your speaking my language!! you forgot jab happy boxers and ryus!..the ones that substitute block for jab

eeeer… Thats almost all the people online… =S

really playing with vega takes a lot of patience