D.C. schools new achievement targets vary by race

^When did talking about female entitlement and whining = talking about Matriarch? Last time I checked you don’t represent every female. Nor do your words = every female’s words. Nor did anyone ask for your life story(which has zero relevance to the issue of getting rid of all entitlements which I’m sure you’ve benefited from quite a few in one way or another)

Check again.

I didn’t ask for your dumbshittery either, yet you freely dispense it.

You walked into a thread I created, on a public forum. Meaning I’m free to post what I like, as you own the forum as much as I do(meaning not at all). Quit bitching princess and suck it up <3

edit: Speaking of entitlements and whining, I’m sure you’re all for getting rid of these too right princess?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women’s_Educational_Equity_Act

edit: oh and

http://www.lifenews.com/2010/12/16/planned-parenthood-gets-363m-in-tax-money-abortions-rise/

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/facts/public_funding.html

Congrats. Nice to see someone who cares about the veterans instead bitching about welfare.

I feel bad for America

the playing field isn’t level if you’re white either.
someone like me who grew up in a trailer park doesn’t have the same playing field as someone who had rich parents
that’s life

They can say it’s not because, technically, the schools aren’t segregated, a white person could end up in the underprivileged schools as well as any other race…it just so happens that the vast majority of those there are minorities…OOPS NOT OUR PROBLEM!

As a privlidged white guy I dont really have much first hand experience with this, except from the other side.

Errr…pass the mayonaise?

How is it thatwhen minorities get treated with shitty schools with teachers that don’t care? Its not like they are on the same playing field as everyone else. People don’t have money like that. My mother sacrificed a lot of luxarys just to send me to a good private high school with my brother and sister so we could get a good education. 6000 per kid.

People don’t have money like that. The schools are shitty. I honestly can’t look at posts in this thread and see it be right in any conceivable way. Because minorities, poor people in fucking general are starting off in the school system with solo roll trying to beat MSP. Some will be low tier heroes and achieve, but don’t expect a lack of tools to not be a valid excuse.

Honestly they need to start treating poor kids like ESL students or Deaf kids.Poverty in America prejudice in America is just as bad as being deaf,or cant speak english.THese kids are in shellls and are numb to alot of things.Some of these kids dont know how to even act like kids anymore they are kidults 12 year old 10 year old kids worrying about gun shots,drugs,shotouts,food ,etc.Like if you ever seen a child of a meth addict crack head,single mom in a poverty infested area the light in those kids eyes are gone that childish curiosity is hardened .When you got bitches posting this dumbshit about racism shit is disgusting .

And we have less sandwiches as a result.

Many people don’t know but in most areas of the US public schools are primarily funded by property taxes. That means the schools in poor ghettos where no one really wants to live aren’t sufficiently funded, where as rich areas are flooded with cash. This helps perpetuate the cycle that in part keeps, not just blacks, but all poor people down. If you fix this inherent inequality by changing how schools are funded or taking some percentage from the rich over time the inequalities will start to resolve themselves. Just dumping money into schools unfortunately won’t fix the problem right away, there needs to be a cultural change towards promoting education within poor communities. Race isn’t the real issue (not to say racism doesn’t exist), it’s poverty. A poor white kid in bumfuck West Virginia has about the same chance of becoming successful as a black kid in south Chicago. The reason why Asians and Jews, compared to other minorities, are successful isn’t because they’re better, they just have a culture of working harder and promoting education and success which lends itself to high wages and future generations having life easier. Julian Castro gave a great speech at the DNC this year, comparing the American Dream to a relay race. His grandmother was a maid, his mother was the first to graduate college in their family and then he became a mayor and has a bright future ahead of him in the political world. Just because someone lives in a bad situation doesn’t mean you can’t overcome it and give your kids the chance for an even better life.

If you want to fix the problem fast dump money into family planning to prevent women from getting pregnant at 16 and/or having 5, 6, 7, or more kids. Kids born into situations like that will almost certainly continue the cycle they were born into. They’ll be born into situations which make it nearly impossible to move up the social ladder.

This entire thing in DC is just addressing the reality from the symptoms of the lack of education in these communities. You can say it’s racist and you might be right but in the end if you get educated and work hard you can get out of these situations regardless of your race. Of course everything is much easier said than done.

how the fuck are kids in a first world country too dumb and lazy to learn to read?

and how does that have anything to do with race or being poor? you have kids at some amnesty international cardboard desert school learning that stuff.

I say put those idiots on the fields or something and stop wasting tax money on them.

Very well put. I too know many black males that try to keep it real. As if education will stunt their ability to “fuck bitches” or “get money”.

It reminds me of the time where Xbox live thugs tried to get somebody stomped out because they were making fun of the accent. I called them ignorant and that they were setting their people back by years. They called me Al Sharpton and continued to harass this guy. After I realized that I was dealing with dumbasses, I began to troll them by yelling “World Star Hip hop”!

Its still early in the morning for me and my eyes are barely open so I’m probably missing something, what eactly was the problem here? (read the excerpt not the whole article).
I went to a local elementary school and a magnet middle school. If you are expecting the test score from those two schools to be even remotely close you’re on crack. 80% of the kids in my middle school were also in the gifted program and like two kids in my entire grade scored below the 90% percentile on their stadardized tests. Of course the standard would be close to 99% of kids passing those exams, if you couldn’t pass those test that easily you never would have gotten into the school.
Meanwhile if you have a school where only 2 out of 10 kids pass those same test bumping that up to 6 out of 10 in five years seems like a good goal. If you didn’t start at the same place and your travelling on the same course at the same speed you won’t end at the same place either. Are people mad that kids who can’t already pass standardize test aren’t being held to the same standards as kids who can?
By definition “catching up” involves the person who is behind going at a faster rate than the person who is ahead of them, this doesn’t seem to have anything thing to do with race imo, its just basing future expectations off of past results.
I need caffeine :coffee:

Thinking of it from an educator’s standpoint, this may be their experience as well. How can you justify investing more resources to solve a problem when it’s obviously not being solved? Especially if funding these failing programs means cutting resources from the ones that are showing progress.

The solution to upward mobility isn’t as simple as giving impoverished schools more funds. There’s a whole social dynamic here that has to change, and unfortunately, putting money into the schools just isn’t going to accomplish that. I personally feel this is the dismal conclusion that many educators are coming to and why people are getting so frustrated with all of the handouts and support programs.

So what should be done then? I’m not sure anyone knows. But I do know that if people want to change that desire has to come from within. And outside of mind-control rays or totalitarian laws you can’t force people to do anything.

I’m pretty sure there’s a native American reading this thread and shaking their head at everyone’s whining about life treating them unfairly.

Honestly, I hate how much we underestimate children. If there is one problem with the education system is that we treat students like they are all idiots. This isn’t a race issue by the way, it is just a general issue.

I am Laotian and we were shitted on but that didn’t stop my parents from working hard. We immigranted here with no money and we still end up better than most minorities that have been in America for generations.

Cool. But my point is about perspective. Compared to a dude on an isolated reservation, living in a tin roof shanty with a dirt floor and no running water most of the complaints seem pretty trivial by comparison.

My parents grew up dirt poor in the deep south during the 60s, not a good place to be black-mongolian(hah), but they managed to get a college education (WITHOUT affirmative action, btw) and made a better life for themselves and their kids.
My parents were also “nerdy” black kids at the time, but they told me unlike today, an education and self-betterment was encouraged by the community. Of course you have the losers who tried dragging them down to their level, but it was nowhere near as prevalent as it seems to be today.

oh well. :coffee: