CvS2 vs SF3 3rd strike in most balanced characters

see when i play remy i cant fall back on parrying most of the time and have to play to avoid the others pokes because remy works better at HIS range. at his range going for a parry only leads to a quick hit to counter after it like a cr mp for super or a cr hk for a knock down so parrying with remy is kinda limited based on the range he’s SAFEST AND MOST EFFECTIVE at.

at his most useful range he has control of the match and can poke and back away without being hassled. the real problem he has is being caught up close and countered (parried, DP’d, thrown).

u can’t say everyone fights up close in 3S, i’m sorry if viscant or whoever thinks thats the case i would say that they are wrong and a scrub in 3S and need to REALLY look at the distances ppl fight at. they change from character to character. reason why twelve and remy take such horrible damage is because they must fight from farther away hitting things as they come into there range. they cant trade, if they do they lose.

also knowing priorities of pokes are even more important in 3S because it becomes the answer to not being able to punish with parrying itself…

if i’m in sweep range against a shoto the only thing they can hit me with really is a sweep or a low forward, if i see them sweep or low forward I COULD PARRY but what does that get me? not much so this is when i use my range to bait them to sweep so i can kara UOH into super (thanx justin) or CBK there sweep for good damage since they r crouching.

no, u’re wrong. ok?

no, then they just changed/improved some aspects of 12 so he counters #1 a bit better. other than that, doesn’t mean shit.

Whaa? Of course it’s not ok. Just because you americans only play Yun, Chun and Ken it doesent mean they’re the best.
Akuma has poor stamina, but oh my god if he can rushdown! He’s a pure rusher and he does good damage. So if you know how to use him you don’t worry about the stamina.
Have you ever heard of the japanese player Match? No, I didn’t thought so…

If you play a perfect game, of course Akuma’s the best. He has great strength, combos, and Supers.

But no one ever plays a perfect game, and it’s ridiculous to assume that anyone will do so. Match is very good, but he’s still by far not the best. Akuma takes a LOT of damage and stun, therefore he gets destroyed by some characters (Makoto, Dudley, Necro, and occasionally Alex & Hugo) that are built specifically to exploit these problems.

He’s solidly middle tier.

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Sorry. I don’t really understand what you mean by this. The matchup between TWELVE and #1 is the exact same for both games. Can you please clarify. Are you sure you understand my point of argument?

have u ever heard of KO? no? I didnt’ think so…

no, i don’t like yun. but god please. stop riding match’s cock and bring up his name anytime akuma is mentioned. name me a second famous akuma player that wins tourney?? take yun for eg, there’s ko, mester, oja, etc etc.

so please, cockrider, stop riding match’s cock and masturbate over his vids nightly.

and who said yun/ken/chun’s american opinion only?? are you fucking stupid? or blind? or retarded?? do u not see the 26 kens in coop4? the fucking large army of chun/yun in sbo? just stfu already. i just owned you hard and cummed in your mouth too. ggpo

edit: wait up! i just saw you’re from sweden…haha, nevermind then. i take back my insults! didn’t mean to pick on a weak one…sorry!

cut it out already you exceeded the maximum “cock” per post limit.

edit: Jk but seriously calm down you two no need to start a flame war. :xeye:

Ok. Here’s the final answer: Akuma is NOT top tier. Shitty stamina + tiny stun bar = NOT TOP TIER. Even if Yun does take damage like a pussy, his stun bar’s bigger, and GJ is broken. That already ranks him higher than Akuma. GGPO. There’s another thread about “Why Akuma is not top tier in 3s” somewhere else in this forum. Take your moaning & complaining there. Fact remains: Akuma is NOT top tier. End of discussion. Next.

Back on subject, I can’t imagine a character being WORSE than Tweleve. I mean, all he has is that IAD, throw & parry. And walking under fireballs. So how do you make Thirteen worse? By taking away his IAD? You end up with a generic character then…

And shouldn’t character balance be based on the matchup charts, rather than #19 vs #1? By doing that, you can see a character’s strengths as well as weaknesses, as well as how overpowering a character can be over another.

And 300ZX- Round 5 is always more fun than Round 3. :tup:

Jesus Christ, I always have hated these threads, but that has to be the main reason right there. You just summed yourself up with that one buddy. Oh, and rushdowns… in 3s? Please explain.

Actually, that part he got right. Several characters (Ibuki and Akuma for sure, off the top of my head) have serious rushdown in 3s. They’re kinda built for it.

N - The rest is still bunk though.

Ever seen Chikyuus 12 before?

Chikyuus 12 = Magnus style. you ain’t blocking nothing if you play against him.

That’s… also not true. He’s one of the safest players I’ve ever seen in my life.

Where do you people get these crazy ideas?

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SSJGouki is a known Japan fanboy who rides Japan’s nuts hard and always has the same preprogrammed response about Japan in 3s, or ggxx.

So it’s not all that surprising.

Lawl

I remember someone once said (i won’t mention his name) there is no magneto in sf3 you either play him the way he can be played or you try to play him your way and you’ll lose.

This discussion is pointless for one reason, you can win with Kyosuke on your team and people would still go, CvS2 is unbalanced.

LOL.

Last I checked, Mags wasn’t in 3s? Secret bonus characters? Clearly, I haven’t played this game at all. :tdown: Though I HAVE tried to parry a tempest before… (intentionally. Damn 3s & its fucking around around with my other games.)

And wtf about chikyuu rushing down like Mags? Match vids, please. As well as the Q vs. Tweleve Match. Dammit, no one’s gotten me either one yet! :tdown:

i think people forget that cvs2 is a team game and there’s a lot of strategy in character matchups and how your character plays according to grooves. everyone saying that the game is unbalanced is just unwilling to learn how to play or learn anything about the game period.

3rd strike is more balanced, cause of the parrying, CvS2 has broke RC and Sagat and Blanka.

Like I said PAGES ago, Strider isn’t top tier if you need Doom to make him good. Understand? They’re two separate characters (in theory).

Balance would be if Kyosuke didn’t suck ass on his own. If you’re thinking of “Is this game balanced?”, think of it in one-on-one mode.

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