I wonder if he’s still in japan, or maybe he died from radiation poisoning.
Dude, you are not a top or even a decent player in any game to my knowledge. What growth are you talking about? Stop typing just for the propose of typing. I think its best to just block your posts from now on. You are a moron.
Realyst i know what u mean, i use to notice it in tekken. All u can do is practice against ppl to see if its safe or wait for frame data. Can really do much unless the patch it or be like dj and post contradicting statements about a game u like or dont like and argue with yourself over it lol
Just gotta adapt to what is offered at this time, friggin sucks!
Saying training mode spoils growth speed is just straight up ignorant. The fact that you never use record in training mode to do ANYTHING other than have a character jump in, and practice combos is exponentially more ignorant than your first sentence.
With all you’ve typed after these two statements regarding testing out things in training mode is equally ignorant. You’re obviously not aware of the concept of character-specific option-selects; either those that your character has that are specific to the opponent you’re fighting, or vice-versa, option selects that can be performed on you, and determining what your outs may be. And that’s just one instance of the infinite number of uses for training mode.
Basically what you’re telling me is that you have the option of testing your outs against every character in controlled situations, but you’re not going to use them, and then you whine and write out your complaint diaries on the CT thread for everyone else to see? Get out of here with this garbage.
Also, with the attitude you’re displaying in this post, I hope to god you don’t call yourself a tournament player. It makes absolutely no sense to limit yourself on purpose when you have all of the tools you need to succeed in front of you.
But oh, I forgot; your reasoning and premise must the reason why people like Daigo, Arturo, P.R. Rog, Inthul, Dieminion overseas, and a lot of upper-tournament-level players keep winning, or come close to winning on a consistent basis. I get it now; they must be limiting their options, otherwise there’s no way they’d be getting better.
I understand that, at the end of the day, playing live against people is what it comes down to, but not using training mode before and after matches to enforce what you’ve been taught… dumb.
Stop posting nonsense.
Now. It’s fucking annoying.
I just found out that MK9 plays differently when you are connected to XBL than when you aren’t. Even in offline versus/training modes! I think that’s a pretty cool feature!
EDIT: [media=youtube]apoX68pA3dY[/media] Same combo off/online. Different damage. Stay free whoeverthefuckmakesMK9.
^ wow that is pretty fail. Who thought that was a good idea? Do they not realize tournaments don’t have all the systems plugged in!
Speaking of tournaments… http://shoryuken.com/f7/ct-may-7th-project-failure-presents-saturday-night-blackout-271128/ 
Dear sir,
Fuck you.
Too soon, man. Too son
There is REAL TALK coming from every direction on this. I can honestly say that everytime I see NerdJosh online with MVC he is either playing versus or in TRAINING. Im not a pro by any means but training is one of the ONLY WAYS to make yourself better. I cant keep beating Dru on a nightly basis and say that I am GDLK in that game. It doesnt matter what game, I ALWAYS beat Dru :tup:
And that’s all I’m saying. Not to be cliche with a lame analogy, but if I have to tighten a nut to a bolt and have the choice between a wrench or my bare hand to do the work, I’m not going to pick my hand just because I can say I did it without the tools. It just doesn’t make sense. You have the tools to do shit right. Use them.
It just so happens that in the world of tournament gaming, this analogy applies on an even grander scale, because any tournament level player knows that he has to use the best tools he’s provided at the time to win.
No wonder you’re winning in everything.
PS: The good ol’ fashioned way to training mode will always be the best imo. Two people sitting next to each other in training mode.
Dude, I’ve been hoping for online training mode since vanilla. Now that would be so godlike.
Online training mode kind of defeats the purpose since it’s about discovering stuff in a lag free environment.
you done with ssf4?
Wow. That might have been the single best post I’ve ever read.
the LAG isn’t bad if the other person has good internet, but just to mess around and try shit out. It’d be so awesome.
I see what you did there…
lol 
EXACTLY.
Yup, exactly. I don’t use training mode as much as either people. I use it to practice combos. That’s one of the biggest strengths of my game. I don’t drop combos often. What did people used to do before there was a training mode? They played the game and learned it like a normal person. By playing it and experimenting. You can still play the game and learn the EXACT SAME THINGS without going into training mode. You can still experiment with os’s, safe jumps, good/bad pokes, etc by playing a wide range of different players. Want to practice safe jumps and anti airs? Play someone who is a scrub. Catching Backdashes? Get a Rose or Chun player. Want to practice range/priority/pokes? Play someone who plays rose, E Honda, Guile, or Dhlasim. You can still do the exact same thing that you do in training mode while playing in VS mode. The only difference is that its not robotic and you KNOW when/what is going to happen. You have to react to it which in turn, makes you react better. Isn’t that what you guys always preach? “Go play people and stop sitting around!” or something to that extent? Training Mode used to not be around and we used to learn video games just fine by not using them. I use them as nothing more to practice combos and do random shit. I know my safe jumps as Ibuki by READING. Something this society is not used to anymore.
IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM DID I SAY “TRAINING MODE SUCKS AND I NEVER USE IT.” or anything even remotely close to that. high five
All I said in a sense was, “Training mode makes it so fucking easy to learn how to play fighting games.” Which it does. With all this youtube, forums, and word of mouth nowadays it is so easy to get respectably good at ANY new fighting game.
Just because I do not use training mode all the time to practice does not mean I can’t be a good player. THAT IS a scrubby mentality dude. That’s like saying if I don’t have a fight stick than I can’t be a good player. (Which by the way, I’m pretty fucking good at MVC3 and have a pretty solid Ibuki and I play PS3 pad.) So are you saying Vangief, Wolfkrone, and Inthul are all ignorant because they aren’t using sticks. (Fight sticks are better because it lets you do more after all.) Talking to people during sessions? Taking advice? Typing/Mic on XBL? Word of mouth is pretty cool. Something people don’t do much nowadays. (Goes to text someone on my Android) This is why I love to play Anderson the most in CT. He loves to talk and play at the same time and feed off of each other. I feel like I could get this from you too Rich…just not atm? ha.
You do realize that most top level players do not even play SSF4, mvc3 or what have you that often, right? Outside of the tournaments themselves they rarely play and if they do…its mostly for fun and just to casually play. I’m not saying they never use training mode but i guarantee some top level players just do not put the time in or care. In fact, most Mid level players practice more than anyone else. The kind of players that want to reach the top…but aren’t exactly there yet.
But then why do top players win? Their patient, know match ups, and do not drop combos or mess up. That’s fighting games right there and a lot of people really think that top level players are incredibly knowledgeable as well. Not true all the time. Have any of you heard Mike Ross talk about fighting games? It hurts my ears. He has no idea what he is saying. And gootecks? There are sometimes on stream when I hear players talking and they don’t know anything about certain characters where in fact, i know that information. Little things such as character health, frame data, or just basic match up information in SSF4. im sorry but people have this persona that
If you’re good at ssf4 or contribute to the community=you’re smart at knowing fighting games
if you’re bad and do not contribute=you’re dumb.
What kind of fucking mentality is that? LOL.
If I started winning tournaments on the east coast everyone would respect me more. Without a doubt. It didnt care if i was the fucking dumbest person in the world. If i went to evo and magically won this year…people would stop talking shit. Period.
THAT, is ignorant and just stupid.
It’s like competitive communities are high school. If you win tournaments you’re cool…if you don’t…no one cares.
I’ve definitely seen my share of
High level players who know what they are talking about.
High levels that do not.
Low levels that have no idea what they are talking about.
Low levels that do know what they are talking about.
Im not saying being knowledgeable about a game makes you good but I’m also not saying being good at a game makes you knowledgeable.
Does anyone ever wonder why Japan is OVERALL better than the US at SSF4 and we are better than them at MVC2?
Americans are aggressive.
Japanese are more patient.
When against a typical US player if their defensive strategy is not working and you keep avoiding their crap or what have you and they are not GAINING a lead…they will budge. All people within the US for the most part are very easy to get them to do something mid tournament because we are impatient people.
Look at Arturo, LuckyD, Daigo, Justin Wong, ClakeyD, Sanford Kelly, Dieminion, Wolfkrone Inthul, Tokido and just any really good player. They just wait around for you to do something and just punish. That’s SSF4. Don’t do anything or look like you are going to do something…but don’t do it.
Kryonik, Rich, Realyst, Magno, and Frank are all perfect examples of this as well.
Kryonik is a very aggressive player. He generally prefers mvc3 becuase its 10x more aggressive and attacks too much in SSF4.
Frank is very defensive and plays gen…he’s a defensive player type. This is why hes plays ssf4 and not mvc3.
Rich-Plays gouken. He’s a defensive player. MVC3 is not campy.
Magno-CVS2 rush down all day. He’s nasty at marvel and thats more his thing than SSF4.
Realyst-Campiest player ever. MK9 looks defensive because of all the unsafe and unblockables. He’ll play a projectile character and be lame i’m sure. Big reason as to why he wont play mvc3. its not campy. He also camps in Tekken.
I’m not saying you guys arent good at the games or anything. I’m just saying you’re more in tune with your style and that you’re better/more comfortable with the other.
I DO KNOW what I’m talking about. I just do not go to tournaments. That doesn’t mean shit though. Stereotype me all you want and please continue to do so. I really don’t care.
You guys say all this shit to me and talk all this crap but I know your just playing the role of how to act on a forum.
lol, nah it doesn’t work like that