didn’t notice. Thanks, that would explain the difference. st.short moves blanka just a tiny bit. that would explain why my testing wasn’t finding anything.
wonder why that was included =/
possibly just an accident while recording, it’s pretty easy to accidentally kara with blanka given the input.
now I get to think why does the first frame of Blanka’s throw have such shitty range, and why does he warrant having that?
Because our character was pretty badly made. An upside for me at least is it taught me something obvious that I’d just not thought about, that kara throws inevitably land 1 frame later than a normal throw.
In other news:
I have given up on the blanka honda match. I will now counterpick forever with gayga or dhalgrim.
Throw range stuff is unique. Ves, how did you get that data? Im guessing the farthest range throw is a jab kara throw back throw
all move ranges are in the super hitbox vids. Offhand only a few things have changed.
b.throw/f.throw are the same, I confirmed the kara in the vids after Mehtbh mentioned it(thanks for saving me lots of time).
jab is farthest, cr.roundhouse kara throw is next farthest iirc. st.strong and a few others actually move you backwards which is dumb.
hold on, I thought a kara throw was only increased distance due to the moving forward when in the middle of the normal move, it doesnt actually change the throwbox range property if you do a kara throw. Its the normal cancel that increases the range, no?
EDIT: I just took it into training.
1)use HAKAN - his hurtbox doesnt move much if at all.
2)Stand to the right of him.
3)Look at the toes, make them barely touch each other.
4)whiff f.throw over and over again(taking him through many full standing animations)
5)With correct position, only back throw will grab him(stopping and then only pressing back+throw)
You may need to attempt the b.throw more than once(usually works on the 1st - 3rd). I am guessing that is due to his animation.
I did it 6 times before posting. I think back throw has slightly better range.
I’m not sure. I can’t claim to know exactly how the hitbox data works, but the numbers, given their precision are probably worked out on the fly based on how far the edge of the hitbox is from from the character’s original standing position.
I can’t do your test atm but can try it later tonight maybe if people haven’t tried by then.
Interesting, I can’t get it to work.
Anyways I’m probably going to start cleaning up some threads, and updating posts with info, but I’m probably going to be posting a bit less. Getting a bit frustrated at times trying to discuss things here. Conversation seems somewhat cyclical.
Think I finally found an application for j.lp, will post in labwork thread in a bit.
Blanka’s throw range was actually one of the first things I checked when I started extracting frames from the hitbox vids. Simply by playing the character I knew the EventHubs data was wrong, or at least wasn’t telling the whole story:
http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2010/nov/09/super-street-fighter-4-throw-range-comparison-chart/
the first frame having crap range makes cr.teching better against him, which sucks.
LOL @ the comments!
Haters gonna hate!!
Lol, funny comments, you think blanka will be in this game ?
I’m LightningCannonball on eventhubs and I posted some comments on that news! so yes, I’m a believer!
there are some hints that he is in but they might be wrong as well!
This game does not interest me but it can be fun with Blanka. xD
But why capcom didn’t show Blanka, he is not good for the marketing of the game or what? ah ah ah, i laughted when i watched this news.
I usually don’t care about tier list at all but read it for the first time since maybe ae first came out to see what some people think. I’m just surprised ultra David think blanka is bottom of bottom tier with el feurte… Meanwhile I honestly think blanka was pretty good and can’t be lower than mid… Just kinda sucks in tourney because there’s just so little blanka players that competes… Blanka is usually ruined by some ball spamming scrub online… Anyways I wish I can play ultra David now…
Anyways still shocked I think peopleput blanka so low because they have no idea how good his normals are… And the blanka in the states are previously known to be turtlers… However I feel like blanka need a mix… I rarely play complete defense unless I’m trying to finish off the round with a life lead and I’m also at risk of losing with one bad guess… Or I’m against character like Honda and he’s got meters and we are both even in health and position.
Really wish I was a few years younger so I had less obligations and can get back in the tourney scene now… His post really ticks me off a bit and to me it shows how ignorant some players are but I guess that’s all good for me…
-LAU
Where ultradavid says that ?
http://forums.shoryuken.com/t/ssf4-tier-list-thread-reboot-super-ae-updated-02-01-09/116532page-107
post 5317
thanks.
His standpoint is interessting.
I found ultradAvids post to be entirelt irrational and based primarily on his own underlying biases. The fact that he ranks t hawk as higher than blanka in a tournament setting says it all. Thr guy is simply a blanka hater, trolling fer more hate.