Interesting in that other than one or two of the top tier placements it’s completely wrong. 
Glad to see that Ganon is at least moved up to top of bottom tier. Honestly he could be moved up a little more. He has good matchups against everybody when used correctly, but his main problem is projectiles, which can be canceled out w/ dash, wizards foot, aerials, etc. The lag that is so bad that everyone mentions is only present on n-air and f-air really. B-air, u-air, and d-air are great moves and end up being extremely fast with great range, priority, and power. Gerudo rapes in controlling the pace of a match to your advantage, and his roll chasing isn’t his only mix-up game. He has mixups and equally good options at every turn. Not to mention stomp which is a great shield pressure move, out of shield option, and spike. I probably have more, but I’m lazy and this^ was half-assed :p.
Yeah, sorry about that. The personal jab was uncalled for, but I’ve been getting very easily annoyed by a lot of things lately.
That’s doesn’t make it right, but as long as this whole Samus “issue” dies here for the moment, I don’t personally mind shutting the fuck up, especially since I’m going to stop playing the game for a while.
It would be nice if someone discovered something that gave Samus back the goodness they stole from her, like having Power Missiles actually be powerful, so let’s look forward to that in the coming weeks.
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Swoops: Corner-Trap has supposedly said that the low tiers aren’t in order again.
Corner-Trap seems to keep switching back and forth though, so who knows.
yeah when using her i rely on the oponent coming at me and i just send them back with fwd smash, plus on approach is the dashing attack or jumping fair but these usually get blocked and then turned into a grab:shake:
Yoshi needs to be bumped up a tad.
Yoshi needs a useful glitch.:sad:
^ Sad yet true =[ Why the hell does down smash suck balls in knockback now!? ARG
Dair is really good for air-to-air though. I got hit by that against a Yoshi player once and my damage meter went from zero to seventy.
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Read the description on ELFS
This won’t be gamebreaking since it’s hard as shit to do but it’s pretty neat.
Strangely enough that’s about where I feel most of the characters stand minus maybe fox.
Oh those, yeah they’re useful but not like Shine canceling or something to that effect.
Is it me or is it really hard to turtle in this game? Hell I can’t even find a character to turtle with.
My $.02 on a few characters:
GDorf is good, but he does have some nasty matchups against faster characters. Hell, Falcon can give him trouble with the rush. He needs a sizable opening to be able to make something happen, but he can kill at very low percents. The Gerudo Choke mixup game is pretty nice too.
Captain Falcon shouldn’t be the bottom of the bottom: he still has his speed and if played smartly can give several mid-high tiers a very hard time. If a character has a bad approach game, Falcon can chew them up with dashes, his surprisingly quick tilts, and his (air to air) Uair, Nair, and Bair. He can kill effectively with double Uairs at around 130-150, the Bair can kill slightly lower than that, and the Knee works at about 120ish. He has to work hard against those with disjointed hitboxes, but his disadvantages against the upper echelon are mainly 4/6. He’s nowhere near as rape as Melee, but he is a damn good character regardless.
Mario doesn’t have a lot of really bad matchups: (R.O.B. and Snake come to mind), but he doesn’t have very many good ones. He’s sort of the anti-Marth in that respect: he has one or two advantage matches, three or four disadvantage matches, and the rest are neutral. He’s got some fun cape and FLUDD gimmicks for edgeguarding, which is nice.
Link seems to be about as effective as Samus in this game, he’s got a nice Zair, a nuanced projectile game (of which the Gale Boomerang is still an important part of), and some real power via Usmash, Ftilt and Dtilt of all things. His air game has some nice priority to it, especially his Nair and Zair. The Up-B got nerfed, but it’s not that large of a hit to his game.
Bowser is great at turtling, in fact he’s the best turtle in the game :p. (Ba-dump-chhh)
That joke was bad. :lol:
Oh my god, that was so fucking horrible.
Biggest turtle, maybe. But squirtle is cooler. SQUIRTLE SQUAD ASSEMBLE
id +rep you if i could. AMAZING joke
This man wins :looney::looney::looney: