Character Ranking Discussion

CT, I’ve hand it to you for starting up this project and sticking with it for as long as you have, but conceding points every once in a while doesn’t mean the thread is getting away from you.

At the moment I think you’re giving too much credit to Luigi and too little to Fox. In the absence of real match up discussion for the two of them, I think the raw difference between the Melee and Brawl versions of both respectively has swayed your judgement.

Marth was all over the place at C3.

Marth isn’t popular enough with the people good enough to place.

It could be because Marth is a Sailor Scout. No one likes a male Sailor Scout.

laughs at the thought since Marth is ten times more powerful than any of the Sailor Senshi in FE3

It doesn’t matter. He still has a tiara, which means he’s still a Sailor Scout wannabe.

I decided to put Fox in front of Luigi. I honestly don’t see how Fox is any better than him, but since people want him there then I guess I have to concede.

EDIT:

In defense for my case, after some review I think Luigi and Fox are equal in terms of ground game, approach, and camping. But I still think Luigi has the better air game, just do a move by move analysis between the two and you can see the difference. Luigi’s attack speed is faster, I’m not even sure why anyone would think otherwise, this especially holds true for their aerials. Luigi does have the better KO moves, if that wasn’t already apparent. And he has the better recovery. Vertically he can do a midair jump, DownB, then UpB while all Fox can do is midair then UpB. Horizontally Luigi can do a midair jump, SideB, DownB angled sideways, then UpB while Fox can only do a midair jump then follow with either a SideB or UpB.

Hey Corner-Trap. I noticed you are quite active in the tier list discussion at SWF too. Since I’m curious being a Zelda player and all, can you please justify her exact placement on the high tier? From what I observed on most people’s tier list at SWF, she ranges goes as far from the lower part of the high tier to anywhere on the mid tier.

Only reason I think Zelda is any good is because she has decent camping, and absurd KO moves. Aside from that everything else about her is pretty average, accept for her approach which is pitiful. I’ve been contemplating on putting her on the lower end of the high tier, but I feel that orochizoolander may kill me if I do so.

Not gonna go off on the whole story here, but just be satisfied with “There’s a story-based reason he wears it and you’d feel like a jackass once you found out what that reason was.”

Anyway, Zelda’s definitely upper tier. Maybe on the lower end due to her camping and approach not being as good as some of the higher ranked guys, but definitely upper tier.

I don’t care what the reason is. It’s a TIARA. That’s like Link wearing a schoolgirl outfit or something.

Doesn’t Marth wear the tiara because his sister died or something along those lines?

So he wears his dead sister’s clothing? Doesn’t that mean that Marth is not a Sailor Scout, but Alfred Ashford from Resident Evil: Code Veronica?

Something like that…oh screw it.

FE1

[details=Spoiler]The tiara is Ellis’ (Marth’s sister’s) most prized possession, when she gets kidnapped it falls off her head. Marth gets there, sees his dad dead and sister being carried off, swears revenge and wears the tiara both as a reminder of what he fights for and so that he may return it to her once he saves her. Once Marth kills the Dark Dragon and rescues his sister he returns it to her.

It’s a common thing in anime and such for characters to keep odd things as mementos, like Shinn in Gundam SEED Destiny who carried his little sister’s cell phone after she was murdered (even though it’s pink and girly with hearts and shit) so that he could hear her voicemail and thus hear her voice.[/details]

But since the truth hurts too much for most of you, go ahead and keep making the stupid Marth jokes. :rofl:

Can’t wait for the DS FE remake of Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ry? to Hikari no Tsurugi. First time being able to play Marth proper for most of us.

He better promote or there will be hell to pay.

Edit: How can he be a Sailor Scout wannabe when his game was made in the late 80’s and Sailr Moon didn’t come around till the early ninties.

Not that all the Marth hate matters, since he is damn near a national hero in japan. Marth gets much love in the land of the rising sun.

I kinda wanna say he is even more respected then Link with the older generations in Japan.

So this explains why he barely got the nerf bat?

Only FE games I played were the ones with Ike in it.

Possibly.

These are the match-ups I have posted for the IC’s on the first page. Please tell me if you disagree with any of them and why.

Bowser- Good 7/3
Captain Falcon- Fair 6/4
Charizard- Fair 6/4
Diddy Kong- Fair 5/5
Donkey Kong- Good 7/3
Falco- Fair 5/5
Fox- Fair 6/4
Game & Watch- Fair 4/6
Ganondorf- Good 7/3
Ice Climbers- Fair 5/5
Ike- Fair 6/4
Ivysaur- Good 7/3
Jigglypuff- Fair 6/4
King Dedede- Fair 6/4
Kirby- Fair 6/4
Link- Fair 6/4
Lucario- Fair 5/5
Lucas- Fair 5/5
Luigi- Fair 6/4
Mario- Good 7/3
Marth- Fair 4/6
Meta Knight- Bad 3/7
Ness- Fair 6/4
Peach- Fair 6/4
Pikachu- Fair 4/6
Pikman & Olimar- Fair 5/5
Pit- Fair 4/6
R.O.B.- Fair 5/5
Samus- Fair 6/4
Sheik- Fair 6/4
Snake- Fair 5/5
Sonic- Fair 6/4
Squirtle- Fair 6/4
Toon Link- Fair 5/5
Wario- Fair 6/4
Wolf- Fair 5/5
Yoshi- Good 7/3
Zelda- Fair 5/5
Zero Suit Samus- Fair 4/6

Ike, Marth and Sigurd are pretty much the most popular Lords in Japan.