SWF is pretty dumb these days. It was helpful when I was starting out in Melee, but there is just so much crap that get’s posted there. It just got stupid when Brawl came out and all of the noobs flooded in and started posting shit.
Also, here is my rough tier list for now, I would really like some feedback on it, and if it is garbage, just tell me. If this looks familiar, it’s because it is a revised version of one I had earlier on allisbrawl (I’m Goldkirby on there). Give me some reasons why somebody should be bumped up or down.
S Tier:
Snake
Falco
Toon Link
Wolf
ROB
A Tier:
Marth
G&W
Meta Knight
Pit
Fox
Olimar
B Tier:
King Dedede
Diddy
Zelda
Ice Climbers
Pikachu
Lucas
Luigi
Ike
Sheik
C Tier:
Zero Suit Samus
Wario
Samus
Peach
Pokemon Trainer
Lucario
Kirby
Mario
Ness
Jigglypuff
Bowser
D Tier:
Sonic
Link
Donkey Kong
Captain Falcon
Yoshi
E Tier:
Ganondorf
Pretty much the only person I think is totally unplayble is Ganon, but maybe someone can enlighten me
Nah, just left. Stopped posting basically and one day came back and I no longer had access to it. I hadn’t posted on SWF in years until news of Brawl started to trickle in.
I don’t think this is fair. Ganon clearly isn’t very good and he has some very bad matchups, but he definitely isn’t unplayable. Command grab is pretty good, standing jab is a pretty good spacing move, ftilt and dtilt are ok spacing moves, dash attack is pretty good, and all of his air attacks have their uses. His smashes are basically unusable except for the occasional dsmash for tricks out of command grab, but his nonsmash moves are acceptable launchers anyway. He’s bottom tier for sure, but not off on his own super-crap tier.
man, Snake is total bullshit
i didn’t know until today that he has ridiculous super armor frames on his Cypher recovery for some fuckin reason
you can almost never smash him out of that shit, it’s so stupid
Snake versus Peach is REALLY HARD
It depends on the priority of the attack you’re using. Marth can hit him off with fair pretty consistently and falcon can knee him off.
Snake vs. sonic:
Snake plants mine.
Snake keeps Sonic from jumping over the mine with his bair.
Snake wins.
Played in a few tournies just recently. It consisted of players who actually explored the game and idiots who just use the melee top tier and say d3 sucks becuase he’s slow.
Anyway the most consistant characters were the ones that we’re picking at tops.
A few honorable mentions were fox, falcon, Wario and Ike.
The way I see it, DK seems a bit slow, his moves generally have awful startup and/or lag and his size makes him kind of a huge target, making him easy to juggle. His recovery is mostly horizonal, so if he gets hit too far down, he’s dead.
I DO LOVE his range and power and the fact that he’s not really all that slow considering. B-air and u-air rule and SA frames are a nice bonus. Swatting projectiles is pretty awesome, too.
I moved him up mostly because he’s better than all the other characters in low and bottom tier. People have been placing well with him in tournaments, and everyone keeps requesting for me to move him up.
Also how does everyone feel about me moving Pit down to high tier? I propose this, because he is at a disadvantage to every other character in top tier.
Is there any reason why Fox is that much lower than Falco and Wolf? He’s still very strong (a guy his speed should not be killing at around 100%), and his shine is still useful. Sure, he can’t really camp worth a damn, and he dies kinda easily, but he should not be like 8 character spaces from Falco/Wolf.
Falco and Wolf are just so much better than Fox. Their entire move set simply does everything Fox’s can but better. Everything about Fox has been nerfed, but not to the point to make him bad. Falco and Wolf have a lot of dominating match-ups, while Fox still goes even with lower tiered characters.
Nope, no problem at all. Also, Pit in high tier sounds right. He’s not unstoppable like SWF seems to think he is…Snake is MUCH more of a nightmare than Pit is.
EDIT: Also see you moved Ike on up. That’s closer to where I would think he’d be.
