just for reference can anyone confirm Lili’s bad match ups or matchs up that are critical to learn?(other than shotos)
Grapplers, all of them. Like she does well against most of her tekken counter parts. Has some trouble with the mishimas. Kaz and Hei do dumb damage Jin is only a problem when he begins to frame trap. Zoners are no problem for Lili. She messes up sagat, sim and guile. Ex divine step gets you in for free if they toss out a fireball on whiff.
Cammy can give her some issues as well cause of her good footsies.
That’s about it. To counter her bad match ups get…a zoner for grapplers. A dp character to stop high pressure characters and give lili a window to do some major damage. A grappler to sit on life leads and stop most of the tekken cast.
Most grapplers are free to me. I seem to have trouble with heavy frame traps. The only thing cammy can really do to pressure me without risk is walk forward st.jab(which is brutal).Lily has average footsies but her anti air forces people to play footsies with her. I have Vega on point since his footsies is so good. vega’s anti air or lack thereof is meh. Anywho so yeah characters with stupid frame traps. =c
stupid frame trap characters can be ex countered and stopped in their tracks. The only way counter works to its fulliest is if you let the character frame trap a lot and believe they can get away with it. Eventually they push you away and you can counter them if you see a pattern in their frame trap/mix up. How can grapplers not mess you up? They truly give me the most problems. You have to go in on them to do damage and all lili can do is stand there and wait. They may not even jump and you don’t wanna risk being whiffed punished. Plus lili can’t hold them out as well because of her low hp. I usually put ken on life lead duty because he can zone and has a dp.
Just block frame traps for the most part. Frame traps aren’t good in this game because throws are so weak, so there is hardly a reason to press buttons in between frame trap block strings.
grapplers think they can get away with alot of nonsense i.e. green hand> spd. but they end up catching a rabbits thorn into 400+ dmg. of course there is more to it than that… but if you can time your airborn specials with their tick throws and wake up grab/grab on wake up you can get them to respect you a little more.
don’t take chances with geif’s 0 framer though.
One thing I have noticed is that Lili’s grab is exceptionally good so i think that makes her really scary when dealing her stuff. =3
lili can also reverse srks with lp version and larieit from gief also. most useful combo ender is peacock jive sweep (f.mk-hp) because its 2 hits for 80 and 100 so it doesn’t get scaled much.
If there is any out of date info on here let me know
[LEFT]how exactly do you cancel dendrobium after ending a blocked boost combo? for example c.lk, c.mk, cl,hp cancel into dendrobium seems to work for me randomly. [/LEFT]
You can only cancel if it is ex dendrobium after abc launcher.
alright lili heads, i’m gonna be gone for a few months overseas in thailand visiting family and such. I hope this board is more active when i get back. I’ll try to post here and there but that is uncertain. That means my vids on my youtube will stop until i return. Be sure to check up on Alioune sensei to see what he is doing that you aren’t. Pound for pound the best lili player in the world that i know of. Anyway keep up the work and stay beautiful. ^.~v
no! now the thread will be dead
Well I’m back guys it’s been a while since I was in this forum because I’m starting to dislike this game for various reasons but I still love Lili
Anyway I will start participating alot more again because I have alot of new tech with Lili now and I will start uploading matches as well.
I am playing this game for Lili. If anything happens to her im going to drop this game.
The only use i see for divine step outside of ex is to wiff punish anti airs normals by delaying the move.There better methods to punish than this and a lot easier too so i don’t really recommend it as anything other than a gimmick. Anyone else have any uses for it?
Yes indeed, going to be looking at more Alioune matches while I practice. Hopefully I don’t show up here and become an embarrassment to Lili players everywhere. XD
is alioune the best lili now?
I don’t feel I know of enough Lili players to say yay or nay, but he’s been the one I’ve been watching for a good while.
Does anyone here originally come from the Tekken camp?
Yup! But played ranked in Tekken 6 for the first time in a long time (years) yesterday… my gawd am I bad/rusty now. Going to have to re-study the entire game and get my Lili and Julia up to par in both.
Awesome! Welcome to the world of Street Fighter! I hope we have a lot of Tekken-players with us, and I look forward to jumping into the Tekken world and kick butt left and right with Ryu and Ken!
I haven’t played Tekken in a long time, but I had a heap of fun with Tekken 3 and Tag.
So, how do you think Lili compares to her Tekken counterpart?
If you’d have to say: is she more awesome, or equally awesome, in Tekken?