I like games where the characters have to play differently against different characters and where tiering is more about matchups than general dominance. I don’t like it when there are unwinnable matchups, obviously, but then HF doesn’t have any; it has a couple 7.5-2.5 matchups, maybe an 8-2 in there, but for the most part the matchups aren’t too unbalanced. Makes for some great variety, very interesting in my opinion.
I’d love to play him on XBL then.
At the time of that post i was thinking of online play LOL my bad, but i like the overall flow of ST better IMO it’s more fun to watch an ST match then an HF match and the introduction of supers is a great idea i hope SFHD nerfs the damage though.
Wow, those are…pretty dumb reasons to hate on HF. 
At least include a gameplay/balance issue in that rant?
Proof of CE Bison dominance is that even after so many years after CE’s release, he somehow STILL manages to break the game in HSF II. :wow:
I think Rog also had some redizzy combos in CE. :amazed:
HF, 'cause I needs me jump in fierce into an air hurricane.
HF is easily the better of the two. It was just right for me. Plus I still play it pretty regularly.
Hyper Fighting for me. Mainly because of the speed. And I think it is a really balanced game. I have no idea whether CE is more or less balanced or if Bison is dominant, I haven’t played it enough to find out for myself. The speed just bugs me to the extent where I can’t stand playing as most of the characters.
I completely agree.
Oh yeah, another thing I like about HF is that Chun has a HCF fireball and her air spinning bird kick is great in my opinion.
Giving Chun a fireball ruined her, made her such a dry character.
Both of them are great. Me and my best friend still go on about this since we met in third grade. I prefer HF a little more, he likes CE a little more. And we still go back and forth.
Overall: Both or fantastic. I just like HF a little bit better. Even if to me HF Blanka can be kind of stupid to play against .
Any good Shoto-Guile player back in the day would beat Bison quite badly. The comments above are the kind of comments that leave my head hanging about what the hell you guys are seriously talking about sometimes.
Yes, Bison is good, however he ain’t full proof, and he definetly ain’t no T4Jin, close, but not that retarded good. Jin can beat out more than half the cast with 21’s and Parry alone, and his ONLY tough matchup was Steve Fox.
Bison although powerful has to work alittle bit more, and he can actually get beaten badly by Guile and the shoto’s. Just look at the korean’s now, on average, they play CE better then we do here today in the US (Not talking Golden Era Lvl, but our current lvl/knowledge of CE today). Bison is not the end all, be all character, infact I’ve been watching videos of them, and I’ve seen shoto’s/Guile players slap the Bison players more often then not.
I’m not saying he ain’t ridiculous, because he is, many of the characters, can’t stop his shit. However, some of you make it sound like as though he’s the only playable character in the game. For real, are you guys playing Champion Edition or something else?
Guile overall is a better character then Bison when played in the right hands. Sagat is a powerhouse in that game, Ryu is very good in this game, arguably only outclassed by four characters. Ken, and Claw where very good in this game (I remember a korean player on that CE thread winning a tournie with Claw) and Sim’s also solid in this game as well.
I honestly, cannot understand how some of you put CE down for being so called “broken” when we play some of the most broken games in tournaments today.
I will admit, it wasn’t as good overall as Hyper Fighting was, however, it was still a great game. The thing is, back then, when SFII:CE came out, balance wise, it was 10x better then WW.
Because in WW, Guile gripped the entire cast with a true IronFist, at least in CE, even with Bison being that good, there was alot more characters who where actually playable.
I loved CE, but I love HF more, let’s not try to toss ST into this thread.
Bah all true old schoolers stopped playing after WW. Just like my friend 1 block away from me.
I prefer HF over CE. although CE was important to gear up to HF.
But I preffr ST over HF because the roster is more balanced and the underdogs and not as under.
WTF are u talking about? HF is more balanced then ST n virtually any other fighting game ever in HF anyone can more or less beat anyone in ST this isn’t true.
Almost nobody is playing CE other than the Koreans these days.
Yeah, I think that most people forget that Dictator wasn’t the only overpowered character in that game.
It’s not that CE is shit because it’s a broken game. CE was fun as hell when it came out! However, the point of this thread is whether you prefer CE or HF. And to that end, the fact that CE is really broken and HF is really well balanced is a valid reason for choosing HF.
Guile was not a better character then Bison, this isnt even debatable. Bison dominated that game.
Vega(Claw) dominated everyone in CE that’s why they made him pussy in HF.
And you guys forgot The World Warrior.
Huh. Pretty sure it’s Dictator then everyone else as far as CE goes.
I don’t understand how people can just go on about Bison in CE and not even mention Guile, Ryu and Sagat.
What fighting games do koreans play?
My statement that you quoted was for the people who claimed that only one character was playable in CE. Not that people aren’t playing CE anymore, but that if you at one point took CE seriously, Bison was not the only great character in there.
My point exactly, Guile was a monster, Sagat was his O. Sagat equivalent (11-37 Tiger shots here people) with a few differences, but better dizzy potential over his OG version, due to CE’s dizzy mechanic. Ryu was almost no different from his HF version, and Ken was ridiculously powerful in this game, along with other characters like Claw who had arguably the most retarded regular throw in this game, rolling claw actually hitting on all hits etc, etc, hell even Sim was solid in this game.
I agree with you on this, however you read my post wrong. My statements wasn’t that CE was better then HF. My statements where geared out to people who pissed and moaned about how CE was a broken game, and it having only one playable character, which simply isn’t true. I was simply trying to set the facts straight that there is more then just Bison who is playable.
How many bad matchups could you possibly name for Guile in CE? His only real tough matchup was Claw…and “maybe” Sagat. Bison has it tough up against Ryu, Ken and Guile without question. Guile was way better, because the slower speed helped him greatly, plus his SB wasn’t slightly nerfed like how it was in HF and he did huge damage to boot.
His zoning game in here practically shuts down almost every character, because alot of them didn’t have those major HF improvements yet. Someone needs to confirm this, for anyone who was playing during World’s Finest if it was true or not, but if my memory serves me correctly, Guile was taking top place finishes (Placing #1) over Bison more so then not.
Even in the CE tournaments held today in S.K., Bison is not dominating that scene even with his bs dizzy and re-dizzy combos galore, during their tournaments. You see a hefty good mix of Guiles, Ryus, Claws, Kens, Sims and other characters etc, etc. I’ve only watched 4 of there tournaments, but out of those four, I remember Claw taking one, Sim taking 2 and I believe Guile taking 1.
CE may not be HF balanced, but it’s not that bad of a game either, HF is obviously a better choice. However, CE is fun in it’s own right, I actually like the fact that Claw one of my favorite playable characters isn’t watered down like his HF version. I really liked Guile in here as well, because of his dominant gameplay.
I would hands down choose HF over CE if I had too of course.
I should have made this thread a poll.