Some of us enjoy to sit down and spend some time exploring our character’s strength, weaknesses, and overall gameplay.
Lots of 1-frame links weren’t intended to be on the game, but they were discovered by the same people that I’m mentioning who also happen to enjoy the feeling you get when you can perform something that not everyone can do.
Its also a good way for connecting with people.
I can assure you that lots of members from the FGC can instantly tell if another player who’s using their main has put in the hours or not based on how they punish each situation or their links.
If you want Capcom to patch the hours and hours of training that these dedicated members have spent, just so you can sit on your lazy ass and claim to be at their level. I think it’s pretty stupid.
I’m not arguing with you, I don’t want you to get the wrong idea. Just sharing thoughts
But do you remember alpha counters in the Alpha games and In CvS? It’s kind of the same thing with the reversal window in SF4. I’m getting hit with some crazy thing then BAM! SRK to their face. It was at the cost of meter of course but I remember how everybody hated that back then. Just saying a thought I had and I don’t want you think I am going at your throat.
If you actually read the thread and saw my previous post, you would see that I wasn’t just straight up dissing the guy. I layed out why a change like he suggested would be near impossible to implement
And yes, lurking on this site for a while IS a good idea. Most people that make threads like this haven’t played the game for a while; understanding comes from experience and putting the work in, there’s no getting around that. To make an analogy, I wouldn’t go to an economist and tell him that the Federal Reserve needs to be abolished. Yes, I might have opinions, but I lack the fundamental knowledge to truly understand that entire situation and formulate an actual valid opinion.
Like other people have said in this thread, if you don’t like 1 frame links, don’t play a character with bnb’s like that. You’ll be missing out on damage but if the execution is easier then go for it. Other people that actually do put in the time shouldn’t have the reward taken away.
1 frame links would only alienate new players IF they were neccessary to complete every combo, like others have said there are easier alternatives for most characters, if you don’t plink or are unwilling to put the time into training then stick to the easier alternatives. 1 frame links reward players with higher damage and stun, after learning how to play and combo with your character it’s the icing on the cake…the real problems with the SF4 series are shortcuts (which only serve to hinder execution IMO) and the retarded reversal window.
lol i love threads like this, its always filled with all the cool kids calling OP an idiot in a clever way for the thumbs, and the rest is a bunch of people arguing with op and a few others.
By the frame data, you can’t not have 1 frame links. Capcom would have had to work extra hard to make every move have at least 2 frames more advantage the startup of every other move. That would be extremely stupid. Please stop making comments without any thought process behind it.
Making it so that you can do the exact same combos but easier shouldn’t really affect strategy, since whether or not you land a combo successfully when you try to do it involves exactly zero decisions.
That doesn’t mean you are entitled to an easier game or there is something wrong with one frame links.
i did read the thread and your previous post. I didnt say you were straight up dissing the guy.(your comment certainly wasnt in the same league as the others i listed, i infact wanted to mention yours since it was pretty good, but i felt the last bit of telling him not to post was flippant and disappointing) In fact, my exact words were " although this one wasnt outright offensive(which is nice)… It still says to me, “you dont understand, but dont ask questions, just listen to your elders and accept it.”
which i stand by.
This guy comes in and tries to genuinely engage in a conversation, and hes told to let the big boys talk about this stuff. you said it wasnt possible, but you also admit to not knowing . and if you read through the thread you have people suggested ways to implement his idea.
yes, lurking and learning is a good idea, but you told him he shouldnt be talking at all yet. We should be encouraging these conversations. Not shutting them down. At every point of the way, with every level of knowledge, there is something that can be learned. but why should it be learned in secret, while lurking on this website? isnt the best advice go out and play in person. meet your community go to the casual sessions, see and talk to these people in person, because that is where youll get the best experience, matches and conversations? isnt that how we get the best knowledge and become better players?
Shouldnt that hold true, even for conversations online?
isnt asking questions and getting clear answers the best way to improve and learn?
There is no way to remove 1 frame links without completely revising every move in the game.
For example, Guile has plenty of one frame links.
Stand Jab -> Stand Fierce is a one frame link. Stand jab is +5 on hit and Stand Fierce comes out in 5 frames.
To make this a two frame link, you would make stand jab +6 on hit.
But all you did was create other one frame links. With stand jab doing +6 on hit, now Stand Jab -> Sweep is now possible and it is a one frame link. And thats just ONE example of this. What you say not only is dumb in general, but it isnt possible without making the game play like SFxT
Alpha counters still had a heavier execution requirement, cost meter and did hardly any damage outside of a few character in A2. I don’t remember anybody hated alpha counters specifically because people were to busy complaining about custom combos.
