Zero shits on Wesker and most everyone else on Capcom’s side except and Morrigan maybe Amaterasu. His physical strength is well beyond 100 tons, he has Mach-1 speed, is completely invulnerable to all forms of conventional weaponry, survived an explosion that destroyed the surface of the entire planet without any physical damage, has unlimited stamina (being a robot and all), and is probably the most skilled fighter on both sides, and definitely one of the most experienced.
Wolverine is really overrated. He is below Deadpool and more or less equal to Captain America. I think people tend to forget how strong Spidey actually is. Even without his Spider-sense, he is way too fast and strong for Wolverine. He’s in the 10 ton range of strength and Wolverine is at the 800 pound strength level. Spider-Man could beat Wolverine easily if he really wanted to.
Pretty much. Plus (I haven’t played Okami in so long, so I might be wrong about this.), can’t Amaterasu transform into Shirinui (sp?)? She’s like, x100 more powerful in that form.
Oh yeah, no doubt Wolverine is vastly overrated, but he’s beaten deadpool pretty consistently, since there isn’t really anything Wade can do to really harm Logan (unless he spams shoryuken). It’s the same with Spidey, sure he can lift 10 tons, but that’s no where near enough to take down wolverine (he fights Hulk to a draw…though in a what-if, Hulk just gets even madder and kills wolverine lol).
Wolverine kind of suffers the same problem with Punisher, all they know how to do is to KILL, so everytime they fight a hero, it’ll most certainly end in a draw or they get owned by some random mean (which explains why Wolverine is so bad in the animated series). He might be a meatshield, but at least he can take a punch…about as good as Cap’s shield.
As for Capcom side, Wesker is probably in the range of power as Ryu, Bison and Akuma, but no where in the level of Shin Bison/Akuma, Oro, Gill etc.
Btw, someone earlier mentioned that Darkstalkers are vastly more powerful for a human to fight, but isnt BB Hood a human?
cap doesnt beat doom, neither does magneto, or iron man. doom knows magic, putting him just below strange level.
hawkeye doesnt beat sentinel LOL. in fact, neither does taskmaster or x-23 or iron fist. iron fist also does not beat spiderman and she hulk, or super skrull. the marvel side is horribly off
Bulleta’s a full human. What separates her from other humans, though, is that her heart is as dark as a demon’s.
For those who are interested in what a Darkstalker rank means, here’s a list: http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Darkstalkers/Plot#Classes
For the record, most of the roster is B+ rank (I can recall Hsien-Ko being B+ for sure). I think the only ones who rank above that are Demitri (A), Jedah, and Morrigan (S). Average humans are C.
Wasn’t Donovan a cowboy at some point in his development?
Got bored at work, took an inaccurate stab at the Capcom roster. It’s much harder since they all exist in separate fictions.
[LIST]
[]Amaterasu - God
[]Morrigan - World destroying power in her true form
[]Dante - Killed super demons, immortal?
[]Vergil - Probably could have killed super demons too
[]Zero - Once survived an attack that destroyed the surface of a planet unscathed
[]Viewtiful Joe - Time warping abilities, really nuts if you think about it
[]Akuma - Combined might of Satsui no hado and Shun Goku Satsu
[]Hsien-Ko - Very strong mystical powers
[]Firebrand - Demonic strength, speed, fire, flight
[]Trish - Demon magics
[]Felicia - Superhuman strength and speed
[]Wesker - Superhuman strength and speed but unstable
[]Ryu - Really strong but still human
[]Strider Hiryu - Strong fighter with advanced technology
[]Nemesis - Immense strength and durability, rockets, and can turn into a giant tentacle monster
[]Tron Bonne - Advanced mech suit
[]Spencer - Bionic arrrm! plus guns
[]C.Viper - S.I.N. battle suit
[]Chun-Li - Really strong but still a girl without tools
[]Jill Valentine - Slightly advanced strength and speed plus prior weapons knowledge
[]Chris Redfield - Peak of human strength with extensive training and guns
[]Arthur - At least he has weapons
[]Haggar - No real fighting skills but has experience and muscles
[]Frank West - Stronger than a shambling corpse
[*]Phoenix Wright - I’m a lawyer, not a fighter
[/LIST]
He’s a lot more than that; he’s faster and more agile than Spiderman (can avoid 6 machineguns shooting at near point blank range), can ride in Space without needing a spacesuit, his blade generates high-voltage plasma energy that can cut apart skyscrapes like butter and he’s strong enough to cut off limbs with his bare hands. I would think he’s at the very least higher than Zero.
Zero lost to Sigma when Sigma didnt even have any weaponry and wasnt a Maverick yet?
Zero was able to be captured by Vile?
And Zero died in Megaman X5. X6 isnt even canon and past X6 I gave up on the series…
Where do you get the facts that he has Physical strength beyond 100 tons? I havent seen him show that off.
Mach-1 Speed? Never heard that either.
Completely invulnerable to weaponry? Coulda fooled me, I swore I got hurt by every little thing while playing Megaman X (even from TOUCHING a bad guy…) Oh and every battle Zero has fought, hes gotten injured
Unlimited stamina? Not really. When hes injured, his trademark thing is to hold his arm and his breathing gets heavy. Thats proof of dwindiling stamina right there…
Zero would at least lose to ammy, morrigan, dante, vergil, akuma, and maybe trish and wesker.
Hate to say it but Marvels Canon Tier list is pretty simple… Shuma Gorath, Dormammu ,Phoenix, Dr Strange(if were talking classic) Thor then Everyone else. Currently in marvel for whatever reason Thor is going to way of Clark Kent in DC. No one who is not named Odin seems capable of beating him. He did in fact launch the Hulk who has a new power source (Asgardian power)Making him stronger than hes ever been) Into orbit against his will after easily killing an Asgardian powered Ben Grim.
Capcom Side
Dante (son of sparda, has a sword,cool as shit etc…)
Spencer (how could he lose? he has a bionic arm)
Zero (he would be higher if only he knew what he was fighting for)
everybody else who i couldn’t care less about
Sigma had a beam sabre, which Zero was able to match and destroy with a metal pipe he snatched out of the ceiling. He didn’t exactly lose to Sigma. He was about to rip Sigma’s head off before his body glitched. It’s obvious that Zero’s specs are much higher than the original Sigma.
Vile was using a Ride Armor.
For the Mach 1 speed, Harpuia and Lunaedge both have functional speed stated to be over Mach 1. Zero defeated both of them easily.
Zero easily has over 100 ton strength for several reasons. In MMX2, he punched through about 10 feet of solid steel effortlessly to show X the way to Sigma. By comparison, in DMC3 Dante was going to resort to shooting a steel door when he couldn’t break it down with his physical force before Jester interrupted him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2e_4LcfUu0
The original Mega Man’s power output is 1500PS/1200rpm. That’s ability to push or pull about 400 tons per second. He lifted Dr. Wily’s Castle in MM5. Dr. Wily stated in Bass’s Power Fighter ending that Zero surpasses both Bass and Mega Man, meaning he can lift even more than Mega Man.
I said he was invulnerable to conventional weaponry, meaning guns, explosives, ect. He tanked the explosion of an enormous nuclear warhead in MMZ3 directly from the detonation point. You only posted proof that he’s injured. He can obviously feel when his body is damaged as he says so X5. Zero can’t get tired because he doesn’t have an organic body and he runs on a solar powered reactor. Obviously, if his body gets damaged he will lose power, but that’s not the same thing as being tired. Anyway, using gameplay elements in a canon discussion is not usually a good idea. That’s like saying Dante is weak because he dies in a few hits during gameplay.
And so Zero’s body is prone to random glitching? Or was this fixed? If not, thats for sure a weakness…
Ride Armors are > S Rank Robots? Interesting…
I wasnt aware of Zero’s physical power, actually. Thanks.
Also, MegaMan Zero and Zero are two different entitys, actually. Here, I think were both talking about the Zero that appears in MvC3, so anything about MegaMan Zero cant really be taken into account.
You’ve proven Zero is much stronger than what I originally thought. However, here is why I believe he would lose to a few of the upper tiers that I placed above him
Ammy- I think this is obvious. Shes literally godlike.
Morrigan- Dimensional and World destroying powers at full power. So yeah.
Dante- Again, hes pretty much invincible at max power and hes survived a ton of shit just like Zero, hes also taken down much stronger enemies than Zero has as well.
Vergil- Hes just a bit weaker than Dante, I’m pretty sure he would be able to take Zero tbh.
Akuma- He can withstand many forms of attack, physical and energy based. Hes also destroyed islands, comets, mountains, submarines, etc. for fun.
can thrive in deep ocean, lava, space… but the main reason I say he defeats Zero is because of the Shun Goku Satsu. This amplifies the past sins of the target and feeds of the victims instabilities and negative emotions. For Zero, thats a lot of shit. Killing his friend Colonol, his love Iris, etc. It would take someone with either a pure heart or great spiritual oneness to resist this technique. (btw, Gen cant stop this move anymore. Akuma was way weaker in Alpha 1)
I retract my statement that Trish and Wesker could defeat Zero. Although, Wesker with his teleportation, regeneration and Uroburous would put up a good fight.
It is heavily implied that the Maverick Hunters undergo pretty drastic upgrades each game. The Zero in the original MMX is a piece of crap when you compare him to the Zero in MMX8. This is the reasoning Capcom gives as to why X doesn’t keep the weapons from game to game since the weapons in X2 for example won’t be too effective against the enemies in X3.
In MMX2, Megaman X stopped a nuclear launch and even prematurely detonated the missile on himself with no damage whatsoever. Since X and Zero are pretty equal in power, we can only assume that Zero can do the same.
You know, plot armor got tossed around a bit on the Marvel side, but you forget there is one character on the Capcom side for whom plot armor is literally part of his theme: Viewtiful Joe. The time manipulation is good, but even better than that is the fact that, to my knowledge, so long as he is in Movieland, he can’t canonically lose because “He’s the hero!”. That has to count for something, considering he can therefore beat everyone on the Capcom side as long as it’s in Movieland.
One big thing to consider with Capcom characters is whether we’re talking about their lore, what they do in their cutscenes, or what they actually do ingame. All of these can be completely different things.
For example, Cutscene-Dante can be skewered repeatedly by various sharp objects and laugh it off as well as bend the laws of physics to his will. Seriously…motorcycle-nunchucks. In-game-Dante can then be destroyed by the same enemies Cutscene-Dante was just making fun of and killing for sport.
Anime-Ryu may be able to dodge bullets but Ingame-Ryu has enough trouble dodging Tiger Shots. And are we talking about MvC-Ryu or SF2-Ryu? Sure Zero can take a nuke to the face unscathed in a cutscene, but Ingame-Zero sure can’t step on a spike without exploding into yellow rings.
Hell for some reason Amaterasu can’t cut a giant rock normally but has no problem doing it during a quicktime event with Susano. Same definitely goes for Chris. No way he could’ve moved that boulder if it weren’t for that flashing A/X button.
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Dorm is a god has leave for billion of years strange only gets lucky being the good guy of course, but i will put task in high tier because he can copy moves and movement so deadpool, wolverine, cap, spider man are all equal to him
For crapcom
[LIST]
[]Akuma is number 1. No matter what, he is a demon enough said.
[]Amaterasu
[]Ryu
[]Wesker
[]Morrigan
[]Dante
[]Vergil
[]Trish
[]Firebrand
[]Strider Hiryu
[]Zero
[]Chun-Li
[]Hsien-Ko
[]Radd Spencer
[]Haggar
[]Viewtiful Joe
[]Jill Valentine
[]Felicia
[]C. Viper
[]Tron Bonne
[]Chris Redfield
[]Arthur
[]Frank West
[]Phoenix Wright
[/LIST]
So if being a demon = tier placement, Trish and Akuma should be top, and Dante and Vergil should be right under for being half demon. ?_?
What about Firebrand?