Canonical Tier List

Actually, the Sentinel in-game is a unique model. Look at the official MVC3 website and you’ll see his model number as COTA-94.

Which is… “Children of the Atom-94” :smiley:

As I remember it marvel was never really happy with the treatment of sentinel in the games and didn’t particularly want him as he is in 3. Seems like they’re being snippy.

Anyways, he’s (it’s?) still not particularly overpowering, definitely in-line with the main block of characters.

I can’t believe somebody in here actually thinks Akuma would survive an encounter with the Savage Hulk…and that he is on the level of a Wolverine(who I have begun to hate because he is supposed to be so good)…

SF fanboys need to stop smoking the finest in crack cocaine. Akuma is all smoke and no fire. Who has he really beaten?

His master who pretty much let him win.

Gouken who beat the dirt off his ass and then allowed him to SGS him, only to live from this so-called ultimate technique.

Ken, who wasn’t half the fighter he is now.

He almost beat a sick Gen, who stopped the SGS mind you.

Some random Muay Thai guy.

Every one of Akuma’s “victories” have some sort of asterisk next to them. At most, Akuma is a super karate man. Nothing more, nothing less.

^ To be fair, he’s a super karate man with some level of energy manipulation AND he knows how to weave that into his technique ala Cyclops.

Agreed with everything you said though.

If you are referencing me this statement was meant to be a joke so dont take it so serious and personal…majority of the ppl here are stating there beliefs and it stands to get some off the wall answers but thats what forums are for lol Anyway this is such an opinionated tiering list that you most likely will never hear the end of it, but this is mostly for the benefit of something to do instead of gaming it gives ppl a chance to think and argue on there charecters and learn something other then mixups about the charecters they play.

It’s not your statement itself but the fact that someone on this site will actually try to rationalize it. Legends get blown out of proportion when favored characters are involved. In this case, Street Fighter characters.

didn’t akuma sink a island , boot a sub out of deep water and chill in a erupting volcano?

not being funny but that seems far above marvel street level

No it isn’t.

He sunk a small island. The Rhino can sink a small island. Cyclops can sink a small island. The Blob can too.

Any street level superhero/villain with super strength can sink a sub.

And if I’m not mistaken, they are many low level characters with heat resistance.

Put it all together, and you get a low level villain who hasn’t been properly challenged yet, being in a inferior universe and all.

heh maybe this is getting a bit meta.

Lets work from the bottom up. Akuma is clearly stronger than Phoenix Wright, RR (sans guns anyways), Haggar, Whichever dead rising guy, and Chun Li.

Beyond that, we’re in the ‘reasonable doubt range’. Could he fight Spiderman or Wolverine? Depends on the normal vagrancies of the writing… he’s occasoinally done some really insane things, as mentioned above.

Nobody’s gonna argue that he could fight the Hulk or Thor though.

I should say, I don’t think very many people are Ryu or Akuma fanboys. If anything, the opposite. They’re really kind of boring at this point.


The very weakest are RR (he specifically has the strength, agility, and toughness of a normal Earth raccoon), PW, and probably Hawkeye.  At least Rocket has megatech guns to make up for him being kind of small and weak...  Also, rabies.

And you’re putting Haggar and Chun Li over Hawkeye…why? Hawkeye is another one of those characters I hate but his fighting skills are pretty much top tier from what I have read.

As an old man, with a samurai sword, Hawkeye has killed more men than Haggar has in his city.

To be honest, I was just trying to withhold my hate of Haggar, I kind of felt like I’d been beating on him too much, and so left him out :stuck_out_tongue: Chun is a lot stronger than Hawkeye though, she’s a truly top rate martial artist, and has some energy projection. Hawkeye gets -points for me because he’s basically a downgraded Taskmaster with more toys.

Hawkeye just has to hit Chun Li with 1 arrow and she dies. And yes she can throw kikokens, but how much damage does a kikoken do? Less than a regular punch. It’s not that damaging or fast. An arrow through the heart is an easy kill for Hawkeye.

And once again, look at the caliber of opponents that Hawkeye faces/beats on a daily basis. Super powered beings 98% of the time while the other 2% being people like Dr. Doom.

I don’t believe kiokens are a canon ability of Chun-Li. She only does it in game, and the in the crappy USA cartoon. I’ve never seen her actually do it in official media like in official Capcom animes or anything. Spinning bird kick is an official canon move though.

he doesn’t sink a sub he goes to the bottom of the sea and kicks a sunken ship all the way to the surface, destroying it in the process.

And any lame ass supervillain with mild super strength and standard durability can do that.

What? Every move a character does in SF games is canon except for possibly some super arts in SF3. Someone translated an interview from some of the producers of SF3 that said some of the super arts seen could possibly be a what if type of scenario. Anyways, kikoken is canon and she did throw one in the SFA anime. In fact, she did it twice. But anime aren’t canon anyway.

Basically it boils down Akuma being a big fish in a small pond. Outside of that, he is just another random in some hero’s rouges gallery.

I still think you’re overestimating the Marvel guys, ‘plot armor’ isn’t really a concept that belongs too much in fighting games, but its key to superhero comics.

All of those guys are constantly beating people stronger than them, even Batman figured out pretty quick that people get bored if you just wander around bitchslapping street thugs.

The arrow thing is gibberish though; by that logic, “Hawkeye would be dead if Chris shot him in the face with a shotgun, so clearly Chris is stronger”.

Thinking about it more, in the low levels, its marvel characters with real powers (Mutants, Spidey, Doom/IM in their armor) > SF characters > Marvel characters without powers (Hawkeye, CapAm~his power is specifically being ‘peak normal human’) > Normals (Haggar, PW, Chris, Etc.).

And yeah… I don’t know how you can say SF chars special moves aren’t canon. That’s kind of weird.

Edit: and seriously, hawkeye is a notorious whipping boy.

I agree completely. Chris > Chun. Hawkeye > Chun.

Chun has nothing that protects her from Chris’ bullets or Hawkeyes arrows. She’s dead in a single hit.

She may be able to beat them in a hand to hand fight if Hawkeye or Chris weren’t allowed to use weapons, but that isn’t what is going on here.