Canonical Tier List

Classic Fighting Games Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3
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The Sentinel in this game is a higher level Sentinel. I don’t think he is mark iii or iv, but he has to be a specialized unit He’s not the same Sentinel models that X-men just rip up easily. If you look at this Sentinel he does not resemble the Mark III or IV model. Sentinels have show they can be very powerful. Lower model Sentinels have the same issue:

Durability - The Sentinels are made out of easily destructible metal usually. The in game Sentinel is clearly made of a high grade of steel, possibly solid aluminum

Mobility - The grunt models fly in specific patterns. They also aren’t very fast, and can’t doge attacks. The in game sentinel flight animation he folds his body like a hovercraft. Sentinels typically do not fly in this manner

Armory - The Sentinels typically shoot lazers out of their hands. this Sentinel shoot lazers out of his mouth. The grunt model Sentinels also have eye lazers, this Sentinel clearly doesn’t. This Sentinel is also equipt with Rocket, and if we were to take hints from COTA, also has concealed weapons on his feet like saws.

the in game Sentinel is not a grunt model. He was created for the game, but he is a specialized combat unit with high stamina and durability. The fact that in Marvel 2 and Marvel 3 he has lighting indicating he is shining shows he is made denser material than grunts (who does not have reflective metal). The grunt Sentinels like Mark III and IV appear to be made of some dense plastic material with. Also while in game made not be cannon, the Sentnel in game has fighting ability and can extend his arms and legs. Mark III and IV Sentinels can’t do this.

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you’re confusing Capcom’s lazy implementation of Sentinel back in the day with him being a special model. The problem here is that we can’t use that standard, or else Shuma-Gorath is one of the weaker characters.

Also, don’t think you meant “Aluminum”.

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Characters develop, just as their powers; of the characters you mentioned, Wolverine, IM and Sent all developed a good deal over the years. Wolverine used to be far more obscure/weaker than he is today, just like IM with mk 1 armor vs extremis/thorbuster; or he can just batman the shit up and make a counter-armor against whoever he faces. Maybe Cap hasn’t vastly improved in power, but he’s got enough plot armour to make up for it.

Making tier lists by picking which version of each character arbitrarily just makes it biased as hell. At the very least, compare them by looking at their most recent, non-plot-related, permanent feature/power.

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Nah, this Sentinel in no way rembles a grunt model. It’s not like in 1994 Capcom did not have the technology to make a more accurate Sentinel. They simply didn’t. And if thingswere back then, as they are now, Marvel has a lot of control in how their characters are presented in the game. What Sentinels in X-men could extend his limbs, shoot lazers out of his mouth, show great mobility by basically flying like a hover craft, and whose metal has were reflective? This Sentinel is not your average Sentinel, he is a special model. He may not exist in Marvel cannon, but he’s is clearly not meant to be a Mark III or Mark IV. He is intentionally not drawn to look that way. and the fact that the Mark III model is his alt costume is even more a clue that he isn’t a grunt model

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it’s “canon”. Sorry, it’s pet peeve of mine. (GANON OH MY GOD)

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you’re underrating SF characters. akuma can sink an island (if you think you can’t move a car if you’ve sunk an island…), split mountains, stay 150m underwater, dodge bullets, probably bullet proof, vaporize a forest by ‘powering up,’ etc. he would beat ‘slightly’ above human characters.

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Akuma is by far the most powerful capcom character. What other character can piss off someone by just saying “WEAK” “WEAK”“WEAK”“WEAK”“WEAK”“WEAK”“WEAK”“WEAK”“WEAK”“WEAK”“WEAK,” then proceed to say, “I HAVE KILLED A GOD WITH MY FISTS!!!”

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A badly written/delusional one.

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Akuma seems all powerful in the respects of regular ass humans aka the SF universe but he’s pretty much cannon fodder to most low level super beings.

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he isn’t fodder to ‘slightly’ above human characters of marvel.

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Really? How so? Cap would put his foot all up his ass. So would Black Panther. This list could go on forever…

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Epic Trolling. LOL

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haha sure. akuma is way above Cap. inb4 some cap plot shield having him beating X character that is superior to him in every way.

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Captain America has WAY more experience than Akuma. He is one of the best hand to hand combatants in the entire Marvel Universe. Not just on Earth but the UNIVERSE. He fights all manner of super powered beings. Doesn’t matter who he beat or if he lost, Cap doesn’t lose to just any regular ass joe.

Wolverine had to fight dirty just to get the upper hand on him. He made Spider Man question his own abilities after he landed 3 hard shots before Parker knew what hit him. And remember, these are bouts with obviously powerful beings in a variety of different ways.

Akuma has lost to Gouken twice and to Ryu once. Regular ass niggas.

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Akuma will teach Hulk the satsui no hado and it will be the end of the entire universe, Could you imagine hulk running into a fight with akuma’s gi doin the satsui no hado…Besides akuma tells hulk he need to give into his rage because he could possibly fight hulk on equal footing at that point lol Akuma will be an S tier teacher and fighter…But in all seriousness i would think that Akuma would be at Iron Fist levels which is pretty meta human to me and Iron fist can beat a LOT of Marvel heroes and villains

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I think its now marvel heads being fanboy/hating on Akuma. Y’all gotta keep your personal preferences out of it.

Akuma and Ryu are up on a plane (with minor variances) as all the other basic marvel heroes (spidey, Cap, Wolverine, etc)

Also, Haggar is a pro wrestler turned politician. Zangief probably threw that fight.

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Don’t know much about the Street Fighter universe myself, but from my little knowledge on Akuma I could definitely see him being above most of Marvel’s street level characters. Spider-Man, Cap, Wolverine, Black Panther, Daredevil, etc, Akuma could probably take them all down. The only people I see him outright losing to are those mid to higher up tiers, like Super Skrull, Hulk, Iron Man, Doom, and so on. I’d actually think he’d make a good opponent for Iron Fist or Gorgon or those other upper low tier characters. Maybe Daredevil possessed by the Beast during Shadowland. But like I said, I’m not that well versed on the Street Fighter storyline.

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Maybe in ANIMU LAND where elaborate, energy wasting moves and epic hair constitute “strength,” Akuma would beat Captain America. In “fictional stylized superpowers exist but fighting styles and prowess must be measured with at least some semblance of objectivity land,” Akuma would give Cap a good fight but wonder why a costumed dude that can’t project his chi or whatever just wasted Akuma’s ass.

Hell, in that land, Guile would beat Akuma. In fact, here goes: I think it would be awesome if, as Akuma’s backstory in whatever SF takes place after 3, Akuma was beat by someone he didn’t expect, like Guile or Ken, and wonder if his progression mountain really plateaued earlier than he thought (David Sirlin’s book is awesome). Hey maybe living on an island by yourself didn’t quite lead to the inner might or whatever you thought it would, did it Akuma?

Akuma thinks he’s hot shit but only fights those he considers “worthy.” Which means he hasn’t fought people who might have given him unanticipated challenges, or experience fighting bizarre styles (i.e., Dhalsim, which is another dude what should beat Akuma). Cap has. Cap does, like 364 out of 365 days a year, in a variety of circumstances against a variety of opponents. Akuma WISHES he had Cap’s experience.

EDIT - Now that I think about it, Ryu is similar, and is taking a far more productive path of improvement. Really, Ryu should beat Akuma like 9 times out of 10.

Don’t tell Capcom story writers that, though. They’re more blind to their own characters’ design flaws than the dude what wrote FF7 is about Sephiroth.

EDIT 2 - Akuma is a scrub with amazing execution and reaction times entering the occasional tourney. Captain America is fucking Daigo/Alex Valle/Justin Wong/Viscant.

EDIT 2.5 - Why the hell is everything acidic? Fuck you, acid reflux, I love acidic stuff, stop making it worse.

EDIT 2.5.1 - Akuma was cool in Pocket Fighter.

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thats a mighty interesting pile of theory, having absolutely nothing to do with ‘canon’ :wink:

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I don’t know much about ammy so I won’t say anything about that.
Wesker being higher than superhuman tier is absurd. Compared to people like Dante or Viewtiful Joe who can do damn near godlike things, Wesker isn’t even that strong. Akuma is always holding back so it’s hard to place judge his powerlevel. Zero by himself isn’t so powerful, Maybe if he went Maverick he could be near Vergil in terms of Power and fighting ability.