shuma almost never comes up interestingly, he’s not even in the official marvel wiki as a character. (and no power grid online)
Capcom is hard to compare because not all universes are created equal. I would say the DMC universe is probably the strongest universe represented in the game, and probably Dark Stalkers.
Final Fight and Street Fighter are “real world” universes, and are shared. Haggar is going to be low because he is not close to being that powerful in his own universe, which he shares with Street Fighters (who are the strongest in their respective universe).
Frank West Universe is also fairly week, and naturally he’d be lower.
The Megaman universe is pretty strong as well, but I think it is below the Vampire universe and the DMC universe.
Rad Spencer universe is militaristic, but I think it is a little weaker than the SF universe. There are few if any super humans, and Rad is strong but only in comparison to normal human beings. He himself is not super human.
The Viewtiful Joe universe is an alternate dimension with it’s own “real world”. However anything in that universe is way too much for Street Fighter characters to handle. Satan exist in Arthurs universe, but Arthur himself is not that powerful in his own universe without extensive powerups. His naturally abilities are so great, and cannot possibly hope to beat a normal demon.
Strider is just Rad universe with robot ninjas. He’s Spencers equal. I don’t think he could handle the fighting ability of the SF universe, but he can probably hang with the low tiers in that universe. He can’t beat the top heavy hitters in SF.
The RE universe is pretty much like Specter and Strider’s with Wesker pretty much owning it. I think SF would pretty much do just as good if not better in that universe. But I would put Wesker on the same level as a top tier SF character like Akuma.
Exactly what I was thinking/doing/stuff
These types of discussions are good for late night laughs.
DS is way, way more powerful than the other capcom games, you have planet busters and whatnot.
Strider shits on most capcom universes. Definitely stronger than most.
Haggar is about as strong as Chun-Li, if not a little less stronger.
Haggar is like Hulk Hogan, Chun Li is like bruce lee with magic.
Morrigan is an S or A ranked DarkStalker, capable of wrapping reality and universes and yet she’s below Dante?
Strider is insanely fast and his blade (Falconher I believe) can rip through anything it can find.
Zero is an improved version of Strider in a nutshell, with abilities ranging from afterimaging to time warping.
If I can find that official guide, Ryu actually has near super speed and he can dodge bullets. SF characters are equivalent to street level heroes in Marvel.
Dante (in the Capcom list) is either the last A or the top B. Morrigan is top, followed by Ammy
/shrug
someone asked why IM has more points on the (sum of stats on) official grid and I simply cited the official stats. I didn’t come up with that shit or said IM > Doom lol.
Then again, IM’s stats fluctuates a lot depending on the armor he wears, regardless or whether or not he can kill a lion with his bare hands.
Yeah keep in mind Haggar has cannonically beaten Zangief, and Zangief can hang with Ryu and Chun pretty well (can never remember if cannoically Gief and Ryu ever fought and who won though)
id put X-23 higher than iron fist and hawkeye. cap and iron man beat wolverine, but then again every example i could pull up proving it could be countered with another writers story XD
i still wouldnt put sent the worst. hes easily B Tier IMO. iron fist hawkeye and taskmaster should be D tier.
Taskmaster fought an entire village where everyone was Hitler.
If that doesn’t make him at least B tier then I don’t know what the fuck.
ok? sentinel stomped a mutant cult and singlehandedly blasted half of the Hand (the other half wolverine took out)
not to mention ruling the future
Shuma Gorath is so many greater than signs more powerful than the rest of the characters it’d be too tedious to type. Yes, even Galactus. Dr. Strange “beat” him yeah whatever, and Squirrel Girl beat Thanos. Anyone can beat anyone depending on writer/scenario, but we’re talking objective, fuck plot manipulation and other nonsense.
But does any of this have to do with fighting a village where literally everyone is Hitler? (I think you are missing the point of that post)
hitler is a F list villain though XP
Also, fuck the Akuma fanboys, the following characters would kill him in less than a minute: Amaterasu, Thor, Dante, Iron Man, Dr. Doom, Dormammu, Shuma-Gorath,Vergil, Phoenix Wright (in court), Wolverine, X-23 (in court), She Hulk (in and out of court), Captain America (fuck Akuma’s warrior’s way nonsense, Cap actually knows how to fight), Spider Man, Venom, Chris Redfield, Wesker, Dr. Doom, Chris Jericho, Dr. Doom, Armbar, and more.
Maybe Akuma should stop being a disrespectful prick with the whole “boy/girl” thing before someone shuts him the fuck up. That’s right Akuma I’m calling you out.
well my tier list is more feat and power based than anything. IM and Cap beating Wolverine may happen in the comics But using logic theres no way a super athlete with a shield on his back is going to beat an someone whos has indestructable bones, can regenerate and has 200 years combat experience same gos for the rich geek in a tin suit sure hes all that now but pre civil war / robert downey jr im was borderline obscure and wasnt worth a shit.
Sure Sentinel has achieved alot as Bastion nimrod mastermold and the other higher level sentinels but were talking and old ass what is it? mark 3 or 4 or whatever it is in the game the fodder that everyone pisses on in the front cover of a half a dozen comics. i mean sent is in the same tier as henchman hell id put a doombot over a sentinel any day.
I don’t think Canno wise Zangief can actually beat Ryu. Hang in there maybe, but not outight beat him. He MAY be at the same level as Chun-Li though. I also do think in cannon Haggar is as strong as Zangief by SF2. He probably did Zangief prior to Final Fight 1 (1989), but I don’t think he was as powerful as Zangief during by SF2. I think Zangief probably exceeded him in power. The Haggar in MVC3 is clearly the Final Fight 3 Haggar, and the Ryu here is clearly modeled after SF3 Ryu which has been the most powerful non-dark hadou Ryu to date. Chun’s power did no increase dramatically between SF2 and SF3, and I can assume she’s at the same level. So perhaps in that respect her in Haggar are pretty much equal but not as powerful as Ryu and Akuma. Seeing as this is SF3 Ryu, I think it’s fair to say he’s probably even with Akuma at this point. He already underwent his trainng with Oro (who is considered the most powerful character in the SFuniverse cannon wise) and should be equal at least to Akuma . Akuma use the dark haou power, but this is not Shin Akuma, since the MVC3 Akuma is pretty much not consumed by those powers.
Also I wouldn’t say that SF characters are in the same league as Marvel super heros. I don’t think Ryu or nor Akuma can hang with “normal” super humans in Marvel like Captain and Spiderman. SF character may be “slightly” above human level, but they can’t move cars. To a degree their “powers” like the hadouken seem more symbolic, and they aren’t able to leisurely call these powers in cannon like they do in game. The USA cartoon, as shitty as it is pretty much is spot on in how Street fighter characters use their enegy attacks like Hados or sonic booms. There attacks take a lot of energy, and quite some time to charge up. not practical against even the lowest tier marvel super humans.
what?
man, this is the wrong thread for this site. lol
I see that as one of those characters that are too powerful to write anything good for.
It’s like trying to write a actual comic around Dr. Manhattan. Shit just wouldn’t work.
read up on strange/shuma/dorm. Interesting even though Shuma is def. the strongest, strange actively killed him by absorbing a lot of his powers. Speaking of powers, Dr. Strange has some wacky/stupid ones.
It’s hilarious to me that the least of those powers is the one they couldn’t cite, wiki editors are funny folks
The ‘accidentally destroying galaxies’ one is after he killed Shuma by absorbing a large fraction of his powers, so it kind of gives an idea of how crazy Shuma Gorath’s scope of power actually is. (specifically, after absorbing a part of S-G’s powers, strange couldn’t handle it and was accidently blowing up galaxies, and was starting to morph into a new Shuma-Gorath)