If we do that, then Dr.Strange, Hulk, Spider-Man and X-23 jump up to S tier as they all had the powers of Captain Universe at one point. lol.
Nope, it’s true. Deadpool is for all intents and purposes immortal. But, as he’ll be all too eager to let you know, immortality hurts a lot.
Hell yea let them have it lmao
Isn’t the thing with shuma that wihle Dorm rules his universe, Shuma-Gorath is his universe? That’s kind of the gap. Dormammu came from somwhere else and conquered the Dark Dimension. Shuma is like if the Cancerverse was all one guy.
LegendaryDJ: Abso-freakin’-lutely about being able to ignore the plot armor… with a slight addition that folks have to separate themselves from what they like.
Also, Sensei: Felicia and Iron Fist should seriously be mid. IF is at least Ryu’s strength (if not a bit higher), and no Darkstalker should be down with the normal humans 
Fact: Pussy kills. Her’s is S-tier.
I know Capcom kind went their own with their power grid being that what I believe is that all of their grids are relative to their own series.
but can’t we rank marvel characters by their Power Grid? or would that cause too many ties?
I ought to buy all those All About books and Gamest mooks. If only I had some money…
So basically decide which part of the CANON storyline helps your favorite character’s placing? I mean seriously, I know there’s “what they can do for the most part”, but guess what? ALL of it is canon. All of it counts. It may be dumb, but plot armor instances count.
Plus if we go by what “usually” happens, then Spiderman doesn’t get to use webs since his webshooters jammed/broke/ran out of webs/etc. almost every other issue for the first like 400 comics of his existence.
Super Skrull is officially a joke, because Marvel pretty much treated him as such for years before deciding to actually make him not lose to dumb shit. Hell, that pretty much encompasses all the villains.
Also according to the cannon storyline, Dark Pheonix has 100-0 MUs across the board but loses the ditto 0-100 
Oh the irony…
With the exception of Infinity Gaunlet Thanos, Shuma-Gorath is the most powerful fighting game character to ever appear
in a Marvel Versus game. Dormammu, Pheonix, and Dr. Strange follow him from there.
Yeeeah, about this list and Spider-man’s position on it he needs to be at A-list. He’s beaten Hulk hand to hand and knocked him out by himself—twice, he tied against Iron-man but admitted that if he cut loose he could beat him easily. He’s even beaten Firelord one on one, and Firelord is around the same power set as Silver Surfer who is cosmic level. As well as holding his own against Silver Surfer who’d been infected with the Carnage symbiote (Which canceled his Spider-sense and he still dealt with him alone.) He’s even broken into the Avengers Mansion, made it through even defense system without a scratch and bodied Hawkeye.
Galactus is strong but he isn’t stronger than Dark Phoenix who is the entity of what Galactus is made out of.
Dormammu is weaker than Shuma Gorath and that’s only because Shuma is weaker the further away from his home he is. On Earth he is at his weakest state.
Captain America has beaten Iron-man numerous times and has beaten the Hulk hand to hand with Spidey’s help when he was a teenager.
Storm and Magneto are up there due to them both being Omega level mutants, and both having the power to literally destroy the planet if the felt like it. Namely Storm.
Deadpool should be high middle due to the fact that he’s arguably a better hand to hand fighter than Iron-Fist. He’s beaten Wolverine hand to hand as well as Sabertooth and Gambit had -paid Deadpool off- rather than fight him. Explanation being “Fighting Deadpool is no different than committing suicide.” Which may not sound like much, but given the fact that Nick Fury had stated that Gambit is one of the best hand to hand fighters he’s ever seen in his life (That’s about 90 years of roaming around and trolling the world all around) that says a lot. Even Taskmaster had admitted that when Deadpool is serious, the best things you can do is either offer him money or burritos for your life.
Taskmaster is up there as well, seeing as he’s fought the entire Avengers alone and almost killed them.
Hawkeye is -far- from low tier as he’s been trained by Captain America on how to fight hand to hand personally, and was skilled enough to take over as the new Ronin. He’s beaten Quicksilver by himself and Wolverine admitted that Hawkeye may stand a chance against Iron fist one on one.
I remember Captain America beating Hulk alone in one page somewhere.
and someone putting Silver Sufer in an arm lock.
Also, the fact that Deadpool’s completely unpredictable. And he cant die…lol
I was tempted to just cite the ‘official’ power grid, but that would anger way too many spidey fans (“omfg spider only 4 intellect!? he’s been said to be as smart as richards and doom in issue this and issue that”) Oh yea, and his 4 in fighting abilities.
But just for fun, here’s the average of each marvel character’s power grid:
Dorm: 38
Shuma: 32
Iron Man: 32
Thor: 32
Doom: 31
Phoenix: 30
Skrull: 29
Hulk: 28
Sentinel: 26
She-Hulk: 24
Magneto: 22
Wolverine: 20
Taskmaster: 20
Spiderman: 19
X23: 18
Captain America: 18
Storm: 18
Deadpool: 18
MODOK:16
Obviously the avg undervalues energy projection and overvalues fighting abilities…but hey, IM > Doom omfg!
i doubt it she’s too much of a hoe to still be tight…just saying
I’m actually saying the opposite of picking and choosing. Of course plot armor instances count, but they only count as a small percentage of a character’s overall showings. You need to look at all of what’s happened and take the average. Put your fanboyism aside and say, “on average, this guy does this, this, and this, so it’s more likely he’ll do that again.” If someone like Black Panther for some unexplained reason managed to physically over power the Silver Surfer, yeah we all know it happened, but it happened once and only once. Looking at everything else he’s done, he’s never done anything that even hinted that he had that type of physical strength before or after that event, so what are the chances that he’s gonna magically have that type of strength again? Slim to none. If you were fighting someone in MvC who consistently perfected you 100 times in a row, and the next game, you just so happened to get the upper hand by some random stroke of luck, not skill but luck, are people really going to go around saying you’re better than that guy at the game? I think not. Same deal with this. You work with what’s there, and use logic, reasoning, and common sense to figure out the rest.
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But here’s the problem, it’s a ‘whenever convenient’ thing. So what are the odds? Well, it really just depends on if they ever make the two fight in a Black Panther magazine again moreso than which is stronger. Now the thing is, I understand where you’re coming from, but the problem is how much plot armor and/or plot-device-weakness they give characters on a regular basis. Once again, we all know Spiderman can shoot webs. However, if you go by what “often” happens, then you would have to assume his web shooters consistently get messed up (Granted, I’ve been reading from the beginning and haven’t gotten to the newer ones yet, so that may not even be relevant to the character anymore, but at one point it most definitely was.).
My point is where do you separate the ‘plot armor/convenient plot induced weakness’ from ‘what we can consider’ considering ALL of it is technically legit according to the people writing it?
Right, but that’s the obvious case. Now let’s do a more appropriate comparison:
Say you perfect an opponent 30 times in a row, but his controller is having OBVIOUS malfunctions. Now he switches controllers and perfects you the next 5 games. It would seem obvious that the opponent is better, but you are still winning a majority of the time.
This sort of shit happens all the time in Marvel, where Character A is way, WAY stronger than character B, but character B routinely gets an edge for no reason, be it due to luck, someone being sick, it makes the story more interesting, or whatever. (Examples: Any of the old Spidermans (Especially any where he struggles with the Enforcers due to plot-related factors), Super Skrull, pretty much all of the time. Cap pretty much all of the time. Probably a whole lot more but I started reading comics semi-recently.)
Shes a succubus being from another world that can clone herself turn her body parts into weapons shoot fireballs missles etc… I think she can tighten up her vag especially cuz its her nature to seduce men.
Storm has Omega level potential but she’s not there yet. At her most destructive she can use a pressure field to create a baby-nuke effect but the effort would render her unconscious.
I’d take the reverse position. Even if its officially canon, there’s plenty of things that Marvel themselves choose to forget. If the discussion is to be meaningful at all (lol@the concept tho’) you have to choose to ignore all the plot armor stuff, there’s just no other way.
I guess the real way to do it, that shortcuts all that is more categories.
Cosmic level: Shuma, Dorm, Strange, Phoenix, Canon for Morrigan
God level: Thor, Ammy, Omega mutants
Everyone else.
Even if hulk Plot armored Dr. Strange (for instance) in WWH, looking at the abilities its not really a fight (I’d cite the example in Defenders where Strange was fighting Hulk (tunnelworld saga) and in order to deal with him, shrunk himself down and did selective brain surgery to erase his memories). You can look at some of these characters and say ‘wow he has a million ways he could win’ and that’s it. Everything else is way too up to the vagrancies of story needs.
Edit: To put it another way, the cosmics could become nonphysical, boot you to another dimension, etc. The Gods could arguably destroy the planet you’re sitting on with harsh results, and everyone else could just beat and/or shoot the crap out of you to various levels. And of course everyone can do what the levels below them can do