Can someone explain the hate Tekken gets?

tekken is serious buzziness nicca.

I hate Tekkan cuz dey puts Fe Long in game but he dont even gots flame kick…:sad:

Then some people gots moves u cant block!! It take lotta health. Dats cheap stuff.

I hope Tekkan 6 lets us create characters. Imma giv mines fireball cuz ppl lik turtle till they knock u up in a combo. And on ground they kick u till u dead. Dat aint fair. U cant even get up sometimes, even when you keep rolling bak. They still gets ya.

I hope dey fixes dis so it be a good game. Besides that stuff, I like Tekkan and it got cool fighters. I laffed when I saw the kangaroo but he real strong! Dey need to put a lion since dey already gots a tigerman…

I hate ppl do 10 string on me cuz u cant break free…:shake:

But when I learn 10 strings good imma be in tournament. Cuz once I start 10 string it kant be stopped. I wins. :smile:

lemme preface this by saying that i dont know how to play tekken. i suck.

i tried tekken a while back, but there were two things that kept me from really getting into it, and they are about the visuals

1 i didnt like any of the character designs outside of law. and i stopped liking him when i noticed he had a porn-stache

2 when you hit someone, the spark effect/graphic. it looked like the effect for two swords clashing, not fist on face

looking back, those reasons were pretty dumb, but it was enough for me not to like it.

This really sums up my feelings on tekken very concisely. Especially the fact that it’s a double post.

Either you are a very good troll or a very dumb person. Uh, 10 strings suck. You have the chance to do alot of crap after the 4th hit(sometimes it’s the 5th or 6th, but after that, you are SCREWED), you just has to block it.

Tekken is a good game, but you have to LEARN it. Just like with VF5 and KOF. KOF isn’t crappy, it’s good, but it’s HARD. Saaaaaaaaaaamething with SF2 and 3, it’s hard to learn and you can get steamrolled reeeeeeeeeal quick.

Trust me on this, hell, I don’t mind the visuals, but whoever said the sparkly shit…dude, you play STREET FIGHTER, You have a mother fucking Indian shoot flames out his mouth, and a mother fucking asian girl shooting balls of energy at you, and launcher herself at you like a propeller…riiiiiiight.

You’ve missed the point entirely. If Tekken had 50% juggles that aren’t as “hard”, what are you calling VF’s and SF’s? Rocket Science? Seriously. Before you hit 50% in a Tekken combo, more often than not, you need to nail a CH hit, be in the right axis, and successfully time 4-5 inputs. Is it any harder or easier than SF or VF? Nope. Is the damage any bigger or smaller than VF? Nope. To nail a 50%+ combo in Tekken, it takes a wee bit more skill than a lot of you make it sound, which is “Oh I just tap 1,1,1,2,3,4 at any pace of my leisure, and said combo shall connect for 60% and a wall hit”.

If Tekken’s combos were so easy, then why is it such a big deal when MDJ releases a new Hwoarang combo vid, or when Tony-T showed everyone what Bryan’s taunt cancels could lead to? So those are apparently easy to do, and an EX tatsu xx Ultra hadou is something “insanely difficult”? That’s what is being said by the ignorant on this thread. Talk about facts being flipped.

In fact, VF has 45 second rounds on default. Because matches don’t last longer than that. Hell, I’ve won in under 5 seconds in VF. CH launch xx juggle xx RO. I didn’t even need to dash in or use some fancy step to make the hits connect, And yet people whine about Tekken’s combos?

That was the point I was trying to make.

(P.S. Not bashing VF - I love that game like my own child. Just saying that people who are ignorant should learn how to use their ears more before their mouths.)

You make it sound like everyone and their mother can wave/light/snake dash. You’re also bringing up a single character (DJ). Saying a game is broke based on one character is just like saying SF4 is broke because of Sagat, yet, to even be tough with DJ or the Mishimas, you need to be able to wave/light dash and wd/ld cancel consistently, which isn’t exactly something every tom, dick, and harry can do. I mean ffs, people on SRK think that wave dashing == footsies, and then have the gall to talk down a game they clearly do not understand?

Talk about ignorance.

Sorry, internet sarcasm is never a good idea.

Who said anything about sarcasm man, you just tried to generalize the game. I tell you what, learn a 10 hit combo, and go out and try it on someone and see what happens, then come back and report.

i know, but at the time, i felt that if the game was gonna look real, without fireballs and shit, then it should have better effects for hits.

id be perfectly willing to give it a try now. im talking about how i felt like 10+ years ago

Scrub no one has half life off unseeable tripping lows. Get educated about the game or get out. You complaints about Mishima’s a bullshit too cause only Devil Jin has a Hellsweep that leads to anything serious. Heihachi deson’t have a mid launcher out of WD, Kaz’s HS are weak, the only Mishima you seem to be describing is Devil Jin and we already know he’s the best in the game fool but he’s 10x more beatable then Sagat is in SFIV. Shit if you block HS you lose half life. Everyone gets delayed hopkick into combo, -27. Not to mention you can low jab every single one of those options among other ways around it.

Also it’s ridiculous to claim that Mishimas are so ridiculous in DR or 5.0 when the best player for each game didn’t play Mishimas. The best DR player was Knee and he played Bryan. Bryan lacks in a lot of areas but still Knee always beat everyone he played. All the Mishimas all the best lost to his Bryan.

Dude and you are totally right comparing tripping lows that lead to damage to things that lead to Ultra in SF is stupid because unlike SF that shit is always launcher punishable in Tekken unlike in SFIV where that shit is safe, hit confirmable, and frames. FDC SRK is so freakin stupid, invincable start up, safe, frames, half+, throw it out at any time, mash it between combos, link it off of crouching Lk. That’d be like having a mid, EWGF with no pushback so you get free mix up, and invincable start up so it beat out everything. Devil Jin or any character with a launching low takes a huge risk going for it, it’s possibly half life if it’s blocked and the match is turned completely on it’s heals. There are no none launch punishable tripping lows in Tekken (excluding King’s FC d/f+1 but again it’s slow as balls)

No I was being sarcastic…just forget about it

Why didn’t you say so?! T_T now my feelings are hurt.

+1.

Swear… my first post was right on the money: people who don’t know the game think they can “review” it just like the scrubs on gaming sites that this thread was originally about.

But yeah. Tekken sucks so bad right? That’s why it’s been number 1 for so damn long in Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. etc. With SF and VF not even cracking the top 5 mark. Even a top 2D game like BlazBlue sits below Tekken. That means that SF, VF, and BB must suck even more, right? /sarcasm

Underestimation = the child of ignorance and arrogance.

Clearly cause here in America we are so much better than Japan and Korea we figured out Tekken is ass. They just aren’t in on the secret yet. Somebody better got tell them how much better SFIV and VF are so they can stop playing Tekken right now. Don’t they know??!!?!

I decided to quote a summary of what you both said and my responses.

A mid EWGF that costs 2 bars of meter? Okay, deal. Let’s add meter to Tekken 6. 2 bars for safety for ryu, otherwise that shit isn’t happening. Let him waste meter and then try to FC foward and throw. I can backdash that shit or just break. And where is he? Missing two bars of super. Sagat is very beatable in SF4. Daigo plays Ryu, Jwong plays Rufus, Sagat is still a better character. Game. Set. Match. Same bullshit. A player can overcome the tier list, whoo hoo. Same is happening and will continue to do so in SF4. Down 1 is the shit in tekken, you’re right. There’s no reason he should have a 50% chance of doing that much damage each time he comes toward you. You block low, oh shit ws2, you block hi, oh shit hellsweeps. Mixup was too good and not intended. DJ was out of control imo, beatable though for certain. I am not saying Tekken is trash, nor am I debating how popular it is in Japan. I am saying what I found wrong with the game when I played it.

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Tekken’s juggles are in fact hard, and why are you saying SF4’s execution is hard. People release combo videos and it’s a big deal. Ryu’s bullshit into ultra is ez mode. VF has quick matches. Since it takes execution to play Mishimas well, it’s okay that they have retarded bullshit. U R dumb.

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A few characters have difficult juggles, most do not. I never said SF4’s execution is hard, it’s not actually. Some combos are hard to do, like say the dash upper loop with Rog. It’s 1 frame input, not hard for me to do anymore, but it was at first and I imagine that it would be hard for a beginner to do. Funny thing about SF4 is the more cool shit you do, and the more you combo the less and less damage it does until it becomes dumb. So since it’s hard, maybe it should do 50% life, since not every person can pull it out of their ass right? Mishima Logic. I’m happy people care when brian taunt cancels and hworang/baek do cool shit. I’ll point you in C. Viper’s direction for comparison. Ryu is ez mode, and it’s stupid. VF is very quick and a fun game. I am not ignorant, calm yourself.

So much ignorance in this thread.

Tekken is a second best tournament fighter ever behind street fighter.

Right now it’s the number 1 played fighting game in Japan. SF IV is number 7.

My point here is why does it matter? Just because you are able to pull off complex b&b does not mean you should be ridiculous. And any point made against Tekken is considered hating on it now? I didn’t make the comparison to Sagat, it was brought up so I defended it. Stop getting butthurt, I’m still buying it when it hits console and I will give it a fair shake. I’m just expressing my problems with the game.

Nah why would Capcom make you work for 50%? I mean what decent character in SFIV can’t get 50% plus off comboing their Ultra and none if it is hard. That’s the SF way, 50% off easy stuff like d+FP with Abel, back throw with Gouken, Psysmic Knuckle with Viper, Headbutt with Balrog, any million of the easy ways to link Rufus’ Ultra. I mean you could play Tekken where you need a Class 1 launcher to get 50%(good luck hitting one) or I can play SFIV where my random Uppercut or Dive kick can land me 50%. Maybe even a throw.

Also way to miss the point of my post. Who said anything about Ultras being safe anyway, things that link into Ultras sure are though, how about them fast +frame c. lks. And even if Tekken had bars, it would be broken as hell if all Devil Jin would have to do is through out some moves which he was going to do anyway, safe up two small meters so he could do his magic go threw, beat out anything move into 40% in BR. You were trying to make Devil Jin out to be 3S Chun but he’s not. Some people don’t even consider him the best in the game, they think Heihachi is. If you wanna talk a balance all of those characters you named are Top 5 in SFIV. Unlike SFIV DR is actually balanced so you saw a verity of characters place and win at tournaments. I mean seriously, EVO 2008 had Ling, King, Law, Feng, Eddy, Devil Jin, Ganryu, and Kazuya in final 8. That’s more verity and tier veration then you’ll seein SFIV final 8 this year I guarantee it.

Also yeah Crow won 5.0 Evo twice woopdeedo, we all know Steve is the 3S Chun of 5.0 that’s why the game was out for less then a year before it was patched. Remeber DR was out 6 months before EVO 2006 rolled around but EVO is console only, and 5.1 was out right after EVO 2005. Tekken actually fixed the busted game, unlike Capcom seems to be willing to do with SFIV.

I’m about to post a lot but sleepy zero is speaking so much truth right now.

“I mean seriously, EVO 2008 had Ling, King, Law, Feng, Eddy, Devil Jin, Ganryu, and Kazuya in final 8. That’s more verity and tier veration then you’ll seein SFIV final 8 this year I guarantee it.” so much truth.

compared to the last “great” sf game in 3rd strike where all you saw was chun chun chun chun chun chun yun at Evo.

DJ was not out of control at all.