In SF4 “low poke --> ultra” is the exception, not the rule. Only a select few can do it under normal circumstances, without meter. And, anyways:
low attacks in SF =/= low attacks in Tekken.
In SF lows are the norm, so people block them on default. In Tekken, mids are the norm, so people block them on default.
Don’t even know why they’re being compared in that regard.
And, as far as “launching --> big damage”…no, that doesn’t always require very much risk in Tekken. Over the years there have been plenty of safe/relatively launchers that can lead to big damage…especially when walls are nearby.
Just sayin’.
And, as far as hate goes…Tekken needs to get in line. SF, SC, DOA, MK, KOF, MVC, VF etc get way more hate than Tekken ever has.
Gee, so I guess I was imagining ryu hitting low pokes into lp shoryuken into FADC into his ultra? Or sagat for that matter?
Yes, there’s safe launchers in tekken, but other than EWGF(a high, mind you) all of them put you behind enough in frames to allow your opponent to begin his offensive. With some characters, that can be a VERY bad idea. Also, even though it’s safe on block, doesn’t make it safe, as most don’t track well so they’re easily side-stepped, or have poor range like asuka’s 1+2. Well, unless you count T6 bob’s d/f+2, but that’s fixed in BR anyway…
More than half the people on this thread understand Tekken to the same degree as said video game reviewers.
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[*]Half-life combos? VF has 70% life combos. You can do more than half in SF as well via a single move (Ultra). For somebody to get even 60% in Tekken, the player has to manage to launch you, NOT MESS UP the juggle, take you to a wall, and then make sure he gets there in time to finish the combo. If somebody did this to you, don’t blame the game - the guy deserves props for being to complete the whole thing. Blaming the game is sheer ignorance, and nothing but an excuse for sucking.
[]Button mashing? VF has p,p and pppk. SC has AAA,BBB. SF has Honda, Blanka, Chun, Gen. Is the comparison stupid? Nope. Before you say “but you have to…” and defend the other games, well guess what? It’s the same thing in Tekken. If you lose to a button mashing Eddy, it’s not because the game’s broken, it’s because you suck, and you don’t know what the hell you’re doing. It’s the exact same thing as losing to some kid jamming pppk with Lau, and then randomly wiggling the stick so the finish (flipkick/roundhouse/sweep) is random.
[]EWGF is +4 on block - so? It hits high, can’t track for shit, and when you block it, it pushes you away, so far away in fact that if he follows with another EWGF, it whiffs. Hell, Kaz, Jin, Hei, or even Lars aren’t even top tier in the game.
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I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: better to keep your mouth shut, and let people think you’re a fool, rather than open it and remove all doubt.
Ultra linked directly from a crouching normal?? Is this a Counter-Hit shenanigan or some shit I’ve not heard about? Unless you just meant the --> as “eventually gets to”, like Rufus’ cLK link into sLK, sHK -> Ultra, or Ryu cLP xx DP FADC Ultra.
In 2d fighters unseeable lows are meaningless, it’s the opposite of tekken where(i believe) you block high and watch out for lows. Instead you block low and look for highs, unseeable HIGHS into retarded damage would be broke, unseeable lows barely matter.
Yeah I love these threads. Somebody who likes a game comes on and says “why doesn’t everybody love my game?” It’s because people hate on EVERY game that exists. Tekken sells huge amounts, i.e. people like it. This is like when that guy made a thread a while back about “why don’t people play marvel?” Like…wtf…people do play your game, stop seeking acceptance from people on the internet.
I think I’m gonna go make a “why the hate for TvC” thread.
True, but the threat of “sorta, maybe” getting punished after a blocked launcher attempt isn’t what I’d call a major deterrent. Of course, it’s character dependent like you said, but I don’t see too much risk involved in throwing out something quick like Marduk’s df+1, or Hwoarang’s T5 df+2…that thing was nasty.
Yeah, but if you mix it in with other attacks and don’t get predictable, sidestepping some of the quicker launchers gets trickier.
I’m not saying launchers are unstoppable or broken or anything…I’m just saying they can lead to major damage (not including walls, floor breaks, and wake-up games) and the risk to using them doesn’t always reflect that damage potential.
ive always been a SF player, but i’ve had some good memories with tekken 3 on original psx and 5 was pretty fun…i never knew it got any kind of hate tho. always thought it was a solid fighter
Thank you…I was just about to mention that Marvel thread.
We even had multiple topics about it, and some of them even started deliberately trolling the SNK game thread about it.
Of course, none of the trolls were punished for it but I was moderated by eks for trolling because I counter-trolled one of their troll threads. Good times…
you should come post something for the 4 of us left in the TvC forums.