I’m no E. Honda expert in fact, I suck against honda as well. I’d probably loose just as bad against mr snk. Here are a few things I saw.
You let honda do a lot of hissumo throw to gain EX, Kinda like our TKCS, but it’s better. When he’s pulling that crap, you can hit him with anything. EX hooligan I bet could work… You kind of have to anticipate the move though :-/
Our rushdown game does not work against Honda. TKCS gets beat by butt slam and Headbutt. EX headbutt beats out just about anything we have. A well timed Cspike can beat an EX headbutt as well as everything else Honda has 'cept for block.
With the exception of the LP and the Ex, treat headbutt like a blanka ball. Very punishable if you time it right.
Cross-ups. I don’t think I saw you do any… I’m still trying to get this down, but what one person told me was to not move after I do a combo like the cr. lk cr lp cr lk SA. After that combo, jump forward and use the light kick. That should be the right distance to cross Honda up.
3:28 - coulda blocked… and done something for good damage… Did you spam Cspike to get out or did you just hit cspike before he did ultra?
I’ve noticed that a well timed Cstrike can beat out Honda’s non ex headbutts. I didn’t see you getting punished for the strikes, but Honda’s headbutt can beat yours easy. Make sure you change when you Cstrike. Make some very delayed, and some real sudden.
ya, mr snk e. honda was no joke. i tried to be super aggressive against him while keeping an a eye out for his headbutts, and sumo slams, but when he did throw it out i couldn’t even punish none of it. the recovery time was ridiculous. every time i tried to punish his headbutts with a spiral arrow, he would always have enough time to block. something doesn’t seem right here. also, do you know if his super’s, and ultra’s are punishable?
as for 3:28 - ya, i shoulda blocked. my mistake. i did a cannon spike right before his ultra.
A note from experience:
Only hp headbutt can be punished with a spiral arrow!!
Don’t bother with lp/mp/ex headbutt he is save on those.A smart honda will never use hp headbutt and ur screwed for punishing those.
Ultra/super is punishable with ur own,i have sucessfully landed an ultra after i blocked his but u have to be very quick.(buffer qcf while he does his)
yeah you can punish his ultra and super with your own, I don’t know about a real combo punish though. I usually just hit him with a spiral arrow if I don’t have an ultra.
Honda’s really tough for our blonde babe. I’m going to pick up Akuma just for Honda (and maybe gief).
We ended up not doing a tournament. We just did a lot of casuals. I won some, lost a ton. Reminded me how scruby I really am. I did play against an E. Honda though. It was out of 5 rounds, he won; 3 - 2. :-/
It’s kind of lame, because I would do really well at first, and I would attract a big crowd. Everyone was studying me, and then they’d beat me since they knew everything I’d do
I need to work on mixups. Do more walkup throws, more walk up -> crouch blocks, less TK strike.
Makes me wish I had my matches against Yeb recorded.
The only thing I saw, and the one thing Yeb told me, was to Cspike more often on his jump ins. I DON’T MEAN that jump into corner and dive kick move, but the jumpins with the double kick. You need to be ready for that crap. I noticed you got that towards the end of the video.
Speaking of the Cannon spike, you missed your FADC a lot. I get screwed up on those too, nothing to really cry about. I’d probably FADCB Ultra on those though.
Personally, I’d do more rush in that what you did. Sure, he has that dp move that’s pretty strong, but rushing either makes him try that move (hopefully you can tell what he’s going to do on wakeup), or he will do that runaway move and waste meter.
I really liked your spacing and pokes btw. That’s something I need to work on. I play a totally different Cammy, yours looks a lot stronger against people who DP on reaction.
Baha,
I played another E. Honda in a tourney!!! I beat him 2-1!! I’m happy :D. Lost to a gen though in the third round D;
Video of me at a local tourney in Los Angeles this past weekend (my first tourney ever). The above is a vid from the team tourney section. I was the first one to go up against the seth. ALMOST beat him with a perfect in the second round, but as you will see I completely choked and dropped the match. No fun at all.
Thanks, Seiku. Aw man, I wish you had vids against Yeb. If you ever have any more matches with him, do record
I had so much trouble trying to anti-air his jump-ins. I think I only got him once with cr.hp out of all of my attempts. I wanted to CS them too, but he was very good at jumping in when I was in an awkward position to do the CS command. I guess I need to work on that. Do you think I should disregard trying to anti-air him with normals and just focus on doing so with CS?
I would focus on CS. That’s what shortcuts are for! I know yeb is on XBL, I’ll ask him for a few more matches. He kinda figured me out towards the end. He likes to backdash a lot, which killed my TKCS game. Time for some random Spiral arrows
myDingling,
Just saw you video. You did alright against a runaway Seth. Couple of things I’d do differently:
Cspike a ton. Anytime you see that bastard jump back, cannon spike. He did a lot of jump back fierce punch. Your Cspike cleanly beats it. Every. Time.
Pressure. Apply a crapload of pressure against Seth. What’s he going to do? Teleport? Wakeup DP? Just make sure your not in range of his SPD when he wakes up. Seth has no health, and can be stunned easy. You want him to be afraid of you.
Don’t spiral arrow unless it’s EX through the sonic boom, or combo it. Everyone’s trained to block low. IMO, you would have had a better chance with Hooligan. At least they’re conditioned to block high on an air attack.
One thing I noticed is you didn’t ultra through his fireballs when you had the chance. Maybe when you get ultra you can slow it down as you approach him and look out for the fireball oppourtunities.
I use LK CS on opponent wake-up as a cross-up rather than LK. I suggest you use it too. If Sagat does Reversal Tiger Uppercut, it will whiff (All the DP’s other than Cannon Spike (well, maybe some others too) will whiff in this case) and you will have the time to get close and punish with HP -> Cannon Spike. If he blocks, you can go for some block string/tick throw shenanigans. Also against Sagat, WALK a lot and jump less than you normally do against other characters to close the distance gap. Just these two help me beat most of the Sagat’s I play.
