Cammy General Discussion: To Bee or not to Bee

I can say it not often enough, Cammy is the Ryu of this game, period.
You need fundamentals and solid neutral, otherwise you can stay at the bottom of the barrel.

Beta is up. Cammy air throw looks hella weird lol

Does ex dp connect midscreennow, without the plinking?
I tried it a bunch of times against a fang, definitely whiffed, maybe i mistimed though.

So I’m not sure what the extended lower hitbox on EX cannon change is for. I can’t check hit boxes with the beta, but it doesn’t seem to work after TC lk spiral arrow like I thought or after st mp, st hp EX CS either.

Giefs counter works exactly like Kolins but does more damage I think. Trying to keep gief out will be hard as fuck now. Can’t st mk without risk of eating 240+ damage.

Yeah the damage on Giefs counter is crazy. Looks like crHP will b the go to poke against gief now.

I don’t want to talk about this…

Yeah except whiffing and or having this blocked = free lp SPD basically. There is no replacement for st mk. Good news is if they whiff it you can walk up and CC from what I’ve tested.

The biggest problem of using crHP is his Vskill.

His stHP already beat our stMK, he now has another tool with more reward, but with much more risk involved as well.

Its a tool that makes us more hesitant is the problem.

So beta went to shit around 4pm. Matches keep dropping out to the point it’s unplayable. Going to head to locals tonight instead.

Why is Cammy such a bad matchup for Balrog? I suspect it might be because she’s good at punishing him but I don’t look at frame data so I really don’t know.

How did you make it out of Gold again?

It’s the entire kit. She can outfootsies him and stay at ranges, where his only option would be a hailmarry Rushpunch.
You can hit him out of all rushpunches with st.hp before they reach you. Of course you should not try this with EX Rush.
Furthermore, has he no wakeup outside of his st.lk. Something you should realy abuse.
The firstn thing I teach Balrogs, is that they can not do wakeup st.lk and fullscreen rushpunches without kissing the ground.
Furthermore can you punish a lot of his rushpunches on block with st.lk or st.lp or even cr.lp (depends on the range of course).
His anti-airs are a bit wack too.

Did I mentoi that out V-Reversal causes sideswitches? If he corner you with his V-Trigger you can escape that way.

So and now:
WHO TAUGHT THIS ANIMATION WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR HER AIRTHROW!!! IT LOOKS FUCKING STUPID!

Can she air throw after tc?

Who said Cammy is a bad matchup for Rog? It’s 5 - 5 with a slight edge for Rog currently in S2.

I think it’s slightly in Rogs favor as well. Cammy definitely has the tools to beat him but her low health and his high damage it too much to ignore especially with his Xfactor V trigger

Don’t try to convince me with health < Damage argument.
I made other give up using this argument and I legitament have a allergy against this argument.

everyone thinks Cammy is cheap and brain dead, but Kbrad went 1-6 @ E league lol.

Not trying to convince u dude. Just simply stating my opinion on the matter. I can see why u would say it’s in Cammy’s favor

Yeah I think Cammy can beat him in the neutral to an extent and she can obviously pressure him. He has good normals to contest her and a good anti air as well though. I think where he beats her is the cr mk as it hits low (messing up shimmies), is fast, has great range, and is easily confirmed into v-trigger for a fuck ton of damage or a high low mix up if blocked. Oh and don’t forget to mention the amazing corner carry they get from it. I’ve lost too many matches after successfully landing 3 or 4 knockdowns into spiral arrow and having him in the corner only to get caught by one cr mk into v-trigger to be carried all the way into the other corner and lose to one mix up. Edit: Haha literally just lost to this the very next match I played after having him down to 1% health. One mistake and she’s dead.

Maybe counter hit anti air s HK, uf, air throw? Wonder what possible setups it offers. Considering Cammy’s health/stun I’d expect it to be able to be followed up with a meaty button. Akuma got a health buff after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PPA0gOIJ6k
Here I show that punishing Colon/Kaahleeen’s QCF+PP with Cammy’s back to the wall is harder than in open stage due to QCF+PP’s pushback. s LP, DP or drill will still reach but b+MP is out of range. Is Cammy’s s LP special in SFV, punishing some -4 moves that would usually be safe? s LK is whatever since it isn’t special cancellable. Precise timing is required on s LP, DP punishes though. Moves like Kahline’s QCF+PP have a long block stun with all the E Honda-esque HHS punches. There is a danger of pressing LP too early then getting your Drill or DP blocked!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqXnmokK8EY
Here I test her EX Hooligan Divekick on block, mashing c LP as a followup. I think Akuma’s c LP might be 4f? But yeah, seems just as bad as regular EX Divekick on block.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSJAQmJRs00
^This might be day 1 tech but I’ve wanted to post this for a long time. I see most Cammys do 2 dashes after a super to setup their meaty button. But this isn’t a true meaty setup. 2 dashes does alow a meaty button, but it isn’t a SETUP. You still need to time the meaty button yourself after 2 dashes. But the above video shows a true meaty c LP setup post super. You immediately do a QCF+MK post Super, then a c LP will beat out all buttons! They can probably EX DP through the perfect meaty c LP though. VS non 3f button characters, Cammy can get QCF+MK, perfect meaty s LK. Be aware that since this meaty setup is frame perfect it does require some execution.

Good response Cipher btw!