@Sanada-kun Ken might need a little something as I’ve seen most Ken’s feel forced to spam that st hk in neutral so much, but he doesn’t need anything major. The problem is the ones I play against always seem to not want to pick their ranges and buttons, but rather fish for that one big hit then seem to get pissed when I blow up their option because I’m using the right tool to stop it when they could be countering my counter. To make it clear I’m not out against Ken players. Even when they spammed DP during every string in S1 I just learned to adapt and bait it out. I just thought justice was served to Chris T with his constant badly justified complaints. He was still bitching about Cammy last night on WNF, but still played Necalli over her. To me Chris T is a guy that wants a character that has everything to deal with everything and should have no bad match ups. I think he could be a great player as he has the skills, but he has such a defeatist attitude about anything that challenges him.
I think this will become the new trend.
@Cipher Source? I’ve heard this before and tend to ignore these types of people as they don’t present strong arguments. They pinpoint one thing to justify a want without looking at the whole. She has less health, less stun, less damage then Ryu or Ken and no overhead or fireball. If he had his way he would probably give each character one ridiculous move that’s their own that they could use over and over, which would end up making the game stale. Also notice how he doesn’t put Necalli and Juri on that list, only Cammy because she has great normals (which reads as I can’t play footsies or learn to time my attacks). I mean by that same logic in reverse shouldn’t Juri have better shoryus then Ryu and Ken since her fireball is worse, her neutrals just as shitty if not more so, her life and stun are lower, and she does less damage then both of them as well.
I will only say that that is here from SRK.
I expected something like this more from EH,youtube or Steam, not realy from here.
Verloren does have a twitch. He’s online!
You’re late Soldier!
Reminds me I need to add all of their twitches to my Guide <.<
Someone get me the links!
It’s not our fault we picked the coolest character in the game B)
I LoL at the Cammy bitching in lounge.
When should I be using light or medium spiral arrow? I realize that because I always aim to push my opponent to the corner I do heavy spiral, dash stand lk or cr.lp. Then after all these months it dawned on me that outside of light spiral in the corner for a EX spike combo I don’t use any other spirals.
The reason I ask is that I sometimes have trouble meatying players who mash 3 frame jabs after I heavy spiral knock them down and dash immediately after (if they back rise). I can still typically counter hit them after a dash in cr.lp and catch their button with st. Lk if they quick rise (or vise versa. I don’t have many opportunities to play/test anymore). Should I just practice my opponent’s get up timing or will this be irrelevant if I’m not mixing up my spirals?
For meaty setups it comes down to recognizing which rise they are doing and then timing it as must opponents know now that if you dash after an SA you are most likely going for a meaty so it’s best to walk up and time it yourself. The HK and MK spiral arrow versions are nearly identical now on knockdown with the change for season 2, so you can usually use the same normal at the same time and still get a hit. I tend to use HK in all combos for the corner carry except after a TC combo as you get more damage from the MK spiral arrow version. LK spiral arrow I mainly just use for the EX corner combo, but there are some meaty setups using the LK version. I don’t use them though to be honest. Here is a video with a number of meaty setups, although most are unpractical they will give you an idea of what is possible season 2.
Thanks man, that was incredibly helpful
We need a “complains about Cammy, from all around the world” Thread, for comedy sakes. Steamforums are right now very entertaining.
post that shit bro!
Very well then
Here is the topic:
Let’s Debate: Is Cammy Legit?
Somes say she’s braindead, some say she’s fair, what’s your thought?
And here we go:
thats my favourite
Obvious lie is obvious:
I heard this numerous times during SFIV times already and people could never back it up and I legitamate beat 90% of the Cammys that run into me.
btw that comes from the same guy:
He’s around since release and constantly complains about her. Pretty funny if you ask me, I can look for some older stuff.
Another interesting part were the nerf ideas on the Lounge, all of them were basicly this:
She can play footsies and this is bullshit, it need to get nerfed.
I guess noone knows that Cammy was before SFIV always a footsies character, oh well 8 years of Divekicks on the head can leave some issues.
Just to add to the debate. I beat a Urien main the other day. About 10 matches later I run into him again but this time he is playing Cammy. I lost the first game just to the sheer randomness of how he played her, but then I won the next 3 games once I realized this isn’t a Cammy player. What made this interesting though is I checked his fight log after my match and literally right after I beat his main Urien he switched to Cammy and lost every game until he ran into me again. You could tell he went through that “Cammy is so OP and broken that anyone can win with her” so he tried and found out the hard way. Everyone swears she is god tier until they get hit twice into stun or misconfirm a hit into spiral arrow/cannon spike and eat a 40+% combo into a knockdown situation where guessing wrong = KO.
I still don’t get the Cammy is brain dead comments. I mean she has to hit confirm everything to be safe. Every string or button I stick out is thought about, placed, and then has to be confirmed properly into the correct ender or risked being punished severely. Braindead is when you literally don’t have to think about the consequence of the move and just do it, like Urien’s EX tackle. Funny thing is though that Urien main was just spamming st mk probably because he thinks its a brain dead button that beats everything, so I just blocked the first st mk and did st hp into spiral arrow to punish. Imagine if she was brain dead though and we could just throw out spiral arrows whenever we wanted and do cr hp into crush counters for huge damage with no meter.
My reaction when I read one of these comments is basicly :
They need something to blame their lose on and the Cammy is braindead train is rocking since SSFIV.
Oh yeah, the Beta on PC for the new CFN will feature the balance changes, gota try Cammys new Airthrow out 
I can’t take it. It’s kinda like the Scrubquotes thread. The stupidity and mindless complaining just pisses me off.
Wait I got more ^^
btw. if you want to know the lovely person writing this stuff NG1313 is it.
Want more Cammy whining pls visit this thread on Steam:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/310950/discussions/0/133260492059645103/
Yeah, I also hate that everybody forgot to take away Guile’s Flash Kick and that everybody forgot to take away Chun-Li’s Lightning Legs and that Capcom “forgot” to take away other moves that characters have had in every iteration of the games they’ve been in.
This is why I try to avoid this kind of thing. Stupid comments lure me in and then I respond, which makes me apart of the nonsensical ranting that I can’t stand.
Anyone see Ricki’s Cammy on e-league today? That’s what it looks like when they think she is the best and switch. Her attempts at spiral arrow confirms were cringe-worthy. There is no doubt Cammy is a strong character, but the player has to earn that strength. It’s not given freely. Easy to play hard to master.