Calgary Thread 2016

mp whiffs unless you’re mad close, seems like it got nerfed?

you can do: cr.lk, st.lp xx qcb + lk confirms

or his LK MK target combo (-2 on block, +4 on hit) which can link into jab xx QCB+LK.

any real damage is going to be off a cr.fp, or cr.mp into b+mk xx combo it seems though?

that was a sick video, learned lots thanks buddy. cant wait to try those safe jumps on shotos / everyone else hahaha

They should make all sweeps hard knockdowns since most sweeps are super duper unsafe to begin with. Kinda hard landing a counter hit sweep.

I also hope they remove back rise on wakeup. That puts the neutral game to a screeching halt. I don’t mind quick rise but back rise should be patched out imo

I think they did that 1. Wanting minimal set play and 2. To make you really choose what you want to do if the opponent does a bad dp. Do up a) go for big cc damaging combo or b) go for a cc sweep into a set up. Gotta way options here man. If it’s at the beginning of the round and you have no resources a cc sweep in set play might be the right answer idk. Definitely later on into a game your not going to cc sweep if you can get 50% off of a cc combo. But if your characters cc combos aren’t game changing then why not go for the sweep into set play into advantageous positioning. Idk just thoughts man haven’t had much time to play

I find the mp of that chain tends to whiff a lot if you aren’t point blank. Like off a connected Jaguar kick (or whatever it’s called), unless you know for sure that you’re right in their face, I would just combo off a single jab. I find myself just trying to link off his cr.mp instead. even if it’s not point blank, you can probably link into cr.lk xx qcb+lk most of the time. Cr.mp, st.mp seems to be his go to link.

Can you verify for me if cr.lk has better range than his jabs? If it does, it will be a very important normal for him.

The st.lp,mp chain seems best for punishing unsafe moves that leave them right next to you, but can only be hit by jab.

Take what I’m saying with a grain of salt though, I don’t have the game.

Fighting standing vega, cr. LP has more range than cr. Lk

Edit oh ok yeah didn’t realize c mp comboed into St mp.

Edit 380 meter less V trigger combo off a jump in that takes meter

Edit whoa wait mike you can combo st mp off of c hp

Edit ha but it doesn’t force stand. In the corner the sonic boom I’m doing in my combo stops comboing on a crouching opponent. Not if u do c. Mp st mp tho.

Edit and also it works if the opponent is standing.

Edit on crouching vega, c. Lk and c. LP seem to have identical range

At this early point in the game, I see no reason why you would CC sweep over a beefy CC combo.

Maybe at like super high level play where you know a CC combo won’t kill your opponent but a CC sweep into a successful follow up vortex will.

Mind you, this wasn’t thoroughly thought out by Capcom because they added hard knockdowns for CC sweep in the 3rd beta

i’m not convinced oki after CC sweep is that good for anyone yet

i’ll have to see some super gross setups to change my mind, a safe jump in a game where reversals are bad anyway doesn’t mean much

i’d much rather take the damage and the corner push, because i actually can kill you if i get you to the corner

Jamie, instead of doing st.mp off of a cr.mp or cr.fp do back+mk, it forces stand, does more damage/stun and has more hit stun as well.

cr.fp, b.mk xx qcb+hk kind of shit.

It’s a bit more awkward to combo finish into his DP though, but worth~

Yeah, cr.hp into st.mp is for fat damage, but you need to be sure you’re close enough.

That’s cool Josh, I didn’t know that worked. I only spent maybe 5 minutes in training mode with him, was mostly playing off what I had seen in videos.

The first ex boom leaves him at enough frame advantage to link off it in the corner as well. You can V-trigger off his regular boom, but it does work off EX.

“Hey doods, we tried to remove all set play and vortex play because we know you hate it!”

everyone immediately spends all their time trying to find set plays and vortexes

I guess it’s still in there if you land a CH sweep. Just thinking about it though, wouldn’t you always be better frame trapping with a standing crush counter normal for fat damage instead?

Oh yeah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJfM23iChzs

well for a few characters their longest range move is sweep so there’s that

I really wanna see hitboxes :(. Very curious what the second half of Mika’s cr.HP looks like…

any crush counters award v-meter too, which seems to be something not a lot of people know about.

i mean i land ch sweeps all day in footsies so it’s nice to have options

its not like im fishing for ch’s with sweep or anything

ps more necalli tech to think about - someone in the forums was saying that his tc xx vskill builds a fuckload of meter, so it might be better to go for that to build it(you do lose about 100~dmg on your combos too) instead of his regular bnb. i’ll need to test how effective this is because while troll mode is godlike…you’re going to get it during the round no matter what and that combo doesn’t give you good corner carry

these brook super converters (xbox 360 ~ ps4) adapters are sold the fuck out worldwide lol.

Sent an e-mail to arcade shock, hopefully they let me know when they are in stock. Once they are I’ll make a bulk order for those interested.

Being proactive, as it would be nice to be able to use your 360 stick in a non-PC friendly setting.

edit: got a response from them, here it is…

[details=Spoiler]"Best thing to do is follow us on FB and Twitter as we will update the information there. These are selling out before the hit our shelves as we’ve taken pre-orders on them and they are sold out within hours.

We’re hoping to get an update by end of the month for when our next shipment is arriving. The current shipment coming the end of February is sold out.

Regards

A-S "[/details]

probably won’t be able to put an order in for one until sometime in March! these guys are raking in the cash lol… poor madcatz

Rashid’s jump RH dolphin kick is pretty ridiculous.

Bison gives me a lot of trouble.

Bison is rough, i don’t understand why he has such godlike command normals that lead into ridiculous amounts of damage if you get CC’d off it lol