C.Viper Trial Mode Thread (Console Version)

Skibmeister · April 20, 2009, 4:01am

Ah cheers Jin that worked.
Do you have to use the same method for trial 5 or will my method work on that

DevilJin_01 · April 20, 2009, 4:40am

Same method.

System_1 · April 20, 2009, 6:05am

i cant seem to do it fast enough but i feel like im doing it as fast as is even possible!! like dan will still be bent over from the c.hp but he will still be able to stand back up in time before the ultra connects

DevilJin_01 · April 20, 2009, 6:48am

Still not fast enough. Keep at it. It’s one of Viper’s more useless combos IMO so when you get it down just be happy you’ll never have to use it again. :lol:

NeoBlood · April 20, 2009, 7:52am

You are doing HARD PUNCH TK cancel right?

System_1 · April 20, 2009, 8:51am

yup, im getting the text to turn red.

i did it, but with out the focus attack while just practicing. now i cant seem to do it anymore. i can pretty consistently land the punch and the cancel, but usually the ultra wont come out. how far over exactly does dan need to be bent over when ultra goes off for this to work? his right hand is usually off screen when it does work, but he still blocks it.

System_1 · April 20, 2009, 9:33am

you need to do it faster. the burning kick shoud go off the same time you leave the ground, or it won’t count.

Just need to finish her #5, and I’m finally done with all trials. Woo. Gen’s only took about 20 minutes due to distracting peoples in the room.

System_1 · April 20, 2009, 9:59am

if you are speaking to me:…what burning kick? the one im stuck on doesnt have a BK

System_1 · April 20, 2009, 10:27am

so can you or can’t you use the EX cancel to do her second hard trial or do you have to use the HP MP to cancel it?

System_1 · April 20, 2009, 10:40am

It was a page back. Didn’t notice there was an extra page now.

System_1 · April 20, 2009, 10:44am

DevilJin_01:

Buffer in the super during the thunder knuckle cancel. Instead of doing qcf, qcf + PPP (cuz that takes too long to do) just do qcf+PP to cancel and then one more qcf+PPP to buffer in Ultra.

You’re not doing a grounded super jump burn kick. You basically have to do a super jump burn kick without leaving the air. To do that I believe the motion is d,db,b,ub,u,uf+K. This allows you to do a grounded burning kick even though you normally have to super jump in the air after EX seismo to move once you execute it. This makes it easier to combo into Ultra when you have the opponent near the corner. Higher level players usually just do super jump cancelled MP thunder knuckle and then Ultra.

At high levels of play that’s one of Viper’s most useful combos. You better find a way to make use of it if you wanna get good with her.

I can see everything past the TK cancel as being useful. I already use that in game anyway. Great combo, but that TKC is completely unnecessary. I can live without an extra fp worth of damage for simplicity’s sake.

showgun · April 20, 2009, 11:44am

It’s not completely unnecessary at all and he did say at higher level play. I’m not saying we all play at that level, but I’m sure it’s something we all ultimately aspire to achieve. And at that level, you have to take advantage of every little opportunity to do damage, especially against some of the tougher matchups. The damage it does is only part of it–it builds good meter, more stun, and it psyches your opponent out. When they see you pull that off, it’ll make them think twice before they do anything.

You’re right though, for now just keep it simple. But that extra FP is far from completely unnecessary.

NeoBlood · April 20, 2009, 11:55am

you have to do HP cancel. EX, LP, and MP take to long and cant combo.

System_1 · April 20, 2009, 12:08pm

i think i might actually be doing it too fast…i think my second qcf ppp is coming out the same time as the TK cancel is finishing up just a HAIIRRRRRR too soon so that the ultra wont come out…

edit: AW CRAP…ive been doing ex tk, not hp tk

edit 2: once i realized that, and that was i was indeed, going TOO fast, i slowed down and got it!! WOOOOOOOOO!!! TWO IN ONE DAY BABY passes out now that its 4:30 am

DevilJin_01 · April 20, 2009, 5:00pm

Oh man…you weren’t even doing the right combo the whole time. :lol: Glad you finished it though. Now you never have to use it again.

System_1 · April 20, 2009, 9:15pm

well what was happening was that i was pressing ppp too quickly to cancel the tk and instead of canceling, it was just making it the ex version, and the second time i pressed ppp was doing the cancel on the ex tk rather than the ultra. the reason i could never get it to work was because, if the ultra ever was going to come out, it would be on a third ppp click which was then way too slow. plus the ex version is a lot slower to start with (27 frames instead of 7).

System_1 · April 21, 2009, 6:13am

Ahhh, all trials comprete. Hooray.

Skibmeister · April 21, 2009, 2:55pm

The reason trial 5 is so hard for me, is because of canceling the second cr.FP into ex seismo.
The game really seems to lag behind when ive done the motion, so the timing is difficult…
i can do cr.fp xx TKC, cr.FP almost all the time though…

System_1 · April 22, 2009, 1:30am

hard trial 3

I seem to always do a super instead of an ultra at the end of the combo. Is it because:

A) I have a button mapped to the X3 punch. I heard reports that mapping the x3 buttons don’t seem to work?
B) I’m holding on to the j. punch a little too long?
C) I’m not properly doing the HJC? I’m not mashing the 450 degree motion because I can’t seem to do it fast enough.
D) Is there another thing that I could be screwing up on? I just can’t get the ultra out for some strange reason…

Skibmeister · April 22, 2009, 2:50am

youre probably negative edging the cr.lp causing it to do a super.