I don’t know the exact trick, but from my testing you basically need to do the burning kick at the right time so you sort of drop onto them with it, allowing you to stay closer.
I have def juggled ex burning kick against rufus in training, you just do a MK burning kick so it cross’s up his body as it falls and it ends up falling towards you after the flame kick allow for plenty of time to juggle whatever you want.
Just don’t do the HJC TK Fient. You can just do a regular mp tk after the seismo, just do the super jump cancel later than you normally would.
Wow, no wonder it was so hard. I’m a retard and you’re awesome.
Thanks man. Went from .1% to 90% … haha … Suddenly it’s become a viable option, and the damage/stun is hot.
Still gotta do some more messing around to see if it’s worth the 2 bars. Maybe it will be a purely situational combo.
I can’t read what the video shows, but when I do it in training mode vs. Ryu I get 468.
The only difference is I do is j.HK, c.HP … as opposed to his j.HK, s.HP. I’ll try it his way, and see if there’s any difference in the damage.
Edit: The damage with both c. and s. HP is the exact same. c.HP seems to be more reliable for me though. Also, same damage with j.HP as j.HK.
Hot damn that’s a lot of damage for not using an ultra. My punishes usually only work in the 320-390 range damage wise(assuming I’m not working in her Ultra).
Found something pretty situational, I haven’t seen this posted from lurking this forum for a long while.
If EX TK connects from sweep range +, it can be combo’ed with c.mk -> lp/mp. tk, or just doing mp.tk will send them flying across the screen after EX TK. Doing the c.mk -> mp.tk yields 276 dmg/460 stun. Just doing mp.tk sends Ryu flying across screen needs to be done right around as his knees hit the floor, otherwise he doesn’t get knocked down.
You can also EX seismo-hjc bk after EX TK which has 320 dmg/380 stun, but downside is this will use 2 bars.
In addition, ultra can also be connected after EX TK connects for 555 dmg.
Sorry if this has been posted, just something I thought I’d share in case it was overlooked. Pretty situational since it requires EX TK connecting and it’s not her greatest move ever but helps me tack on some extra damage and stun.
What’s the best situation for Viper to use her EX TK? same goes for her FA, I like FA situation’s since it gives me a shot at a combo, but when is it worth using? and what’s are the best option’s for her as far as combo’s go?
General consensus is that Viper’s FA is shitty, which I agree with. I don’t use her FA outside of adding damage when the opponent gets stunned. I’m also beginning to understand why people do c.hp rather than s.hp after a crumple stun from her FA. Her s.hp freaking whiffs on some characters when in crumple stun animation, which is pretty stupid if you ask me.
As for EX TK, I haven’t found much of a use for it against people who are actually relatively decent players. If they are scrubby, then I can easily land EX TKs. It’s just that the start up for EX TK is so long and it has almost no priority outside of breaking focus like it’s other versions (would have been nice if they at least gave it super armor). Logical use for EX, against decent people, would be to get out of the corner as it goes through the opponent, blocked or not.
Only time I could ever see the use of the FA (and I do use it during these times) is when the opponent is in a corner, and knocked down. Charge for a level 3 FA, and pray they don’t wake up with a multi-hit/armor break attack.
If it does connect, EX TK > EX Seismo > hjc BK or hjc fierce TK > into stuff.
@those who can’t seem to catch their opponents with the seismo > hjc bk > ultra (non-corner):
Tried this on a regular sized character (Ryu), and was able to nail it consistently. To explain: Viper’s ultra range is best measured by the dust cloud, and not anything else. The shape of that ultra seismo dust is akin to this:
.:i:.
The periods “.” on both ends are the smallest and farthest “puffs”. These are useless, and do not represent the range of the Ultra. The rest of the area :i: is the true range, and if the opponent has even a toe-nail in that range, they will get caught.
So if you’re doing seismo > hjc bk too early, the opponent is pushed to the “.” area and beyod. Which is why the ultra whiffs. If you do the hjc near the apex of Viper’s HJ, you will “fall” along a similar trajectory as your opponent, which is why the Ultra will connect, even if it isn’t a corner.
Tried and tested on Ryu. As soon as I understood how far the Ultra reached, and how late the bk should be done, I was nailing it 100% of the time.
something about guile’s hitbox during his crumple state doesn’t allow viper to connect the second fierce following a crumpling focus attack. at the very least, i’m zero for two on my attempts. the post feint fierce completely whiffs.
You’re right. First c.hp feint pushes her back too far. No fierce feint fierce on Guile then. Booooooooo :tdown:
Should check if this applies to any other characters.
EDIT: Waaait a minute. I’m getting it to hit every now and then. My timing must be off for the second fierce.
EDIT 2: I cannot get this shit to hit consistently, sometimes it’ll hit, sometimes it won’t. Well that sucks. Seems this might be Guile exclusive too. Done it on other characters and it connects just fine.
