I agree, she can pressure just fine without using meter. and plus, her focus attack is slow, but it does look good if done properly.
for example, i recall watching a replay on psn, some dude did Fierce, feint, c.mk, low tk FADC etc etc.
Hmmm, the thread on the main page about counter hit specific combos got me thinking.
I went into training mode and turned counter hit on, then experimented with f+mp.
Now, I found that CH f+mp only combo’s into jabs (via a link?), but it combos nonetheless.
Exploiting that further and with the help of links I found the following 5 hit combo off a CH f+mp :
CH f+mp > cr. jab xx standing jab > cr. mp > mp tk
I got it to count as a 5 hit combo but the timing is very, very strict. Still, it might be a useful combo seeing as f+mp is not that hard to get as a CH, especially when your opponent is prone to reacting to your feints with low attacks.
Yeah we discussed some combos with f+MP a bit earlier. You can also combo f+MP into c.MP if you hit the opponent with it just as they are waking up. That’s basically because you hit them super late (meaty) during the f+MP and you get ample time to hit them with c.MP into whatever. I think you should be able to combo into c.MP if they are standing/crouching but the timing might be strict and it’s probably easier on counter hit. You’ll probably also want to hit it from a slight distance so that it hits later.
Hmm I didn’t think my combo was advanced since I discovered it, but what exactly basics are you referring to just using her old regular special combos?
it’s not advanced so to speak it’s just that you seem to missed the whole “how Viper works” thing and that’s what the others are tryna get you to see. Since I’m bored at work i’ll do this one favor for you by detailing it out just this once. SJC lets you cancel the recovery of one of Vipers special moves, take a guess at which one, using this knowledge you can SJC into another of viper’s special moves. For you combo you have to SJC the recovery of LP seismo then do a HP thunder knuckle. it’s not hard you just have to pick your poison… i mean method of executing the technique and stick with it. I’ll let you take it from there
I have a question, since I am kind of new to Viper. What is her highest stun combo? I was messing around in training mode trying to figure it out and I came up with (in corner) j.hk - FFF xxEX seismo - mp tk - fp tk for 825 stun. Is there anything better than this? Even still, that is almost a stun from one combo!
^^If you feel like burning meter, you could FADC the HP TK and do EX BK
But like I said, that’s only if you like burning meter (of if you think it would finish the opponent off I guess…)
If you add that, the stun’s 885 damage, nasty, but you’re better off just doing EX BK by itself after the mp.TK for 850 stun and you only use two bars as opposed to 4, lol.
EDIT: If you get a counter hit with jumping.hk, 885 becomes 935 and 850 becomes 900, which will instantly stun anyone with 900 stun or below. Ownage.
Where did you see this one??? I had to try this out after reading this and OMG it’s beautiful lol…This whole time I’ve been doing mp.TK, hp.TK, FADC EX BK. And when that didn’t kill him, I’m like “So what am I going to do with no meter whatsoever…”
Joe busted that out a long time ago. He even added a feint in the middle just to show how gdlk he is.
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That’s because he super jump canceled the ex seismo. You have to feint the first one in this case or else it will miss.
Here is another question: what are your go to combos? What is your best punisher, favorite BnB’s, corner combo, and ultra setup. Which ones work for you and why do you like them?
I know there are more efficient ones than what I am using right now, so I am just seeking information/ opinion.
I dont know about you guys but I use the standing mp to cr.mp to mp tk combo a bit. Its sooo easy when you get the timing down plus on counter hit you can just combo cr.mp to cr.mp
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I also like using st.mp>cr.mp>MP TK too. The st.mp comes out fast and the combo itself does good damage.
My best punisher is an FFF combo because it’s probably her most damaging punisher. When people miss DP and they get hit by that, they know not to do it again.
My favourite Ultra set-up is after I knock them down in the corner and they don’t tech, I hop over them with the elbow which puts me on the other side, then I cross them up with an aerial BK which knocks them back into the corner and allows me to juggle with an Ultra. Stole this from B-Izm who got it from Sako. Uryo did it too in God’s Garden against Mago.
My favourite corner combo is the 885 stun corner combo. Waste of bars but it looks too cool, lol. Plus it’s demoralizing getting hit by a huge combo like that.
My favourite BnB is cr.mk>mp TK. Easy to do, can be spammed and feinting the TK creates mind games.
wish someone changed all the fierce and shorts etc in the first post to hp and lk etc.
i thought you guys might find this entertaining. i did vipers super (i know i know) on a blocking akuma, and before the flame kick came out he started mashing jab and hit me but my flame kick hit him too.
he got tossed in the air, and i landed on the ground( reset) where i then juggled him with ultra
it was pretty badass. dunno if it is a combo or a glitch or both but thought you should know
Something else interesting that Im pretty sure has no use whatsoever is when you jump straight up and do a bk, you stay in the same spot when you land EXCEPT when you do a hk.bk, you move forward slightly on your way down.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!!?!??!
This just sounds badass, awwwww man I wish you would’ve caught this on film.
Gonna try and replicate it in training mode or with a friend, aww man.
P.S.
Fuck you if you don’t like Viper’s super, I swear I build meter and do it just because she sounds so sexy yelling that shit out. “The…END!!” skeet
P.P.S.
I already said I’d update all the combos on the front if it was fine with Kunai. I don’t wanna spend time re-writing all of them and figuring out DMG and Stun for SJC FADC combos if Kunai doesn’t wanna update 1st post.
yup… ive been trying to replicate it as well. no luck yet. maybe tomorrow
its not that i dont like her super but seriously i dont even know how i ended up with 4 ex bars. i think we were just playing footsies and throwing each other the whole time
Uh no. He did it just to be flashy. He could have just done a normal sjc mp tk without any feinting. He would have just done it later if he didn’t want to feint anything.