Yeah ditto.
Someone’s remark in the update thread got me thinking. Someone asked whether, with all the changes in super, Daigo would be changing from Ryu to Ken. Now, IMHO the only thing that made Ryu as stupid as he was, was all the bs to Ultra he could get away with. Ken’s fundamentals, however, were far more annoying to deal with. With the buffs to Ken and the nerfs to Ryu, I can now see Ken being a far harder match up than Ryu ever was…?
I think Ken probably will be a harder match-up than Ryu ever was. I always felt that in SF4, once Ken got in, it’s really hard to shake him off. Now that he’s been buffed, I’m not really looking forward to this match-up haha.
As for Daigo, it wouldn’t surprise me if he made the switch from Ryu to Ken.
Ryu’s gameplay involved also his great zoning and fb traps… Ken seems stronger now but he hasn’t gained ryu’s tools in the zoning field imho.
i am excited about these changes. from what yall have been saying. cept for the fact my good friend mains abel 
damn, i keep reading n it just makes me excited. haha. funny what the prospect of a new game can do for you.
haven’t been around these parts in a long time so, the fuck is herp derp?
And still man, fuck Juri. This local guy just keeps sonning me HARD with her. Im talking like, he plays her like Viper with a FB, and the way I play (all over the fucking place not knowing wtf I’m doing most of the time) it’s scary as shit.
You have to be honest Vs. Juri from what I can tell so far. I have yet to beat him, but when I do, I’ll see what’s working.
Apparently it’s srk fadc ultra.
Don’t ask me why (I’m not a native speaker btw).
Gonna be doing another stream in the next hour or so. Need viewers cuz ITS GONNA BE HYPE YO UGGGHHH!!!
I really appreciate the effort alot of you viperplayers who got hold of super put in writing your impressions down. Great work and thanks. I do have on concern however. If it is possible can someone try out if the various flamekicks now are punishable with srk after block?
Thanks
I love herp derp, such a great phrase, just sayin’. (",)
Why isn’t herp derp self explanatory? I’m gonna start using it now.
DJ are you possibly going to be playing a gief/honda/bison? I want to see how the match ups are now.
Gief’s still in this game?
I thought T hawk and hakan ate his ass
Imo, they didn’t take the scariness away from Ryu, and i think he’ll still be top with akuma. Just because he can’t trade dp into ultra doesn’t mean he’s not good now. I didn’t really eat that much in vanilla after i actually learned Viper. Ryu’s footsies are still unfuckwit’able, and he just controls space way too well still. Ken was already a shitty match in vanilla because of his “I Win” button. The new cr. mp really isn’t gonna help Viper against him, you still need to pay attention to your range and punish smartly.
Like i said, Viper/Sagat will definitely be 6-4 Viper now. His damage is ass, and even with Angry Scar stored, his dp still does 20 less damage than a normal one did in vanilla. I’m not afraid of sagat at all.
Ryu will probably be 5-5. Ken will still be 6-4 Ken, i’m pretty sure. The things that made him beat Viper in Vanilla either have not changed, or got buffed, and Viper’s new tools won’t do shit about it.
Viper will shoot up the tier list because of the damage nerfs across the board. Her being alive longer just makes her that much more dangerous in every matchup. I don’t feel like i can be scrubbed out of a win in Super, either, except on Rog, but i don’t have much Rog experience in Super, they all switching to Cody or DeeJay out here.
Juri’s not bad. Just need to seismo feint more than normal, and keep her afraid of seismos if she tries to zone you. You really can’t jump at her to start your offense, her cr. fp is too good of an anti-air. Once you get the first knockdown tho, go to town, she’s very susceptible to cross-ups. Like i said, her counters have start-up frames, so she can’t do that on wakeup if you time your shit right. Expect EX Pinwheel to work like a dp for her. Very fast, very good priority, but can be thrown on startup (unlike most dps). Don’t let her scare you, her offense is pretty sub-par.
And yes, like i said, U2 will only be used by new/shitty Vipers who are like “Gee, guys, her ultra is way harder than herp derp!”
I’ve already played Bison and Honda, the match-ups are the same…difficult. It just takes them a little longer to kill you. Hondas Headbutts do less damage but are a better AA for him now. The only thing us Viper players were hoping for with regards to the Honda match was that Ultra II would keep him honest. I personally didn’t use it when I fought Honda. Not for any tactical reason, I’m just not comfortable using it yet. But from some posts a couple of pages ago, peeps said that Ultra II loses out to stuff we were hoping it was going to outright punish. DP’s, Lariats etc…if Ultra II is losing out to those you can bet your ass it’ll get beat out by Honda’s big ass head too. With regards to Bison, that match went pretty much the same as it always does (against people who understand how to use Bison) I got kept out from mid range with his Standing Forward and Roundhouse. I had some success with LPTK to get under his pokes but then got scissor kicked in the face and put under pressure with his cross-ups and tick throw set-ups. It went okay when he was knocked down but his Psycho Crusher is a lot better now and he could use it to get out. You have to block for longer as it has a hitbox at the tail now, I have no idea if we can still punish it with MPTK as his move is faster and ours is slower, but Cr. Forward MPTK should still tag him. Other than him having damage nerfs on a lot of his normals and them giving him a better Psycho (which will now be used in his combos as it does more damage than scissors) he’s pretty much the same. Pressures her on the ground and if you’re predictable/unsafe with your jumps he owns you in the sky too. Oh, just remembered he can now do Jump in MPx2 air to air into Standing Fierce/Roundhouse. in vanilla he could do MPx2 into EX scissors/Psycho but only 1 MP into Standing Fierce/Roundhouse. Now he can do two. Damn lol
Just realised you meant DevilJin - damn our names. Whoops ; )
also DevilJin, is tonights stream the same link from last time? I can watch tonights…
Haha yeah I meant deviljin, but your write up was still really helpful, thank you.
Alright big big news!!! Flash metroid is in the area and will be in attendance in 15 minutes
you’re welcome man 
Flash, oh I’m so watching this!!!
It isn’t, the lower frame advantage on block just means you have to think about whether you wanna follow up or not
Lol at DevilJin witn the shoutout to Raeli.
Stream’s really fun, but there’s no way I can stay up to watch all of it. And apparently BK’s are slower? Aw, that sucks.