C.Viper changes/alterations

same bad risk for reward smoke and mirror character

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Well, with everyone else seemingly getting nerfed up, it levels the playing field haha.

Yea it might not be so bad.
High tier characters are getting nerfed, like Sagat, Ryu, Rufus and Gief, and low tiers are being buffed like Rose, Fei Long and Dan. Viper right now is mid tier, so maybe with all the buffing and nerfing Viper might just end up as a mid tier again in SSF4.

Being a mid tier is actually not that bad. I just hope she does not drop to Guile tier (no offence to guile mainers), but Guile is pretty bad in SF4.

I don’t see how he’s that bad. Right now I’m seeing a whole lot of Guiles online. It’s like he’s the new Akuma.

You’re seeing a whole lot of Guiles online because he relatively easy to pick up and play (even though he’s actually very execution and mindset intensive at high level). Not because he’s good. I’ve literally only met one or 2 random Guile players online that actually played him well.

Well he’s only got two moves and when you are starting out in Street Fighter for the first time it’s much easier to remember charge back than QCF.

I believe her crouching forward has been fixed which makes me so happy. And her standing forward is now faster, and can be used as a good poke to stuff out fireballs in close (",)
But the rumour of EX Seismo, SJC, Mid-Air Roundhouse xx BK is false. it’s the same as vanilla SFIV where the BK doesn’t hit.

wait where did u hear this hitbox fix and fasteer s. mk?

HAHA you said fei long got buffed.

I actually couldn’t do charges for a while when I first played this game. Hadn’t played a SF since A2. I think the reason for me not being able to do them is because they’re non existent in Tekken, which was the only fighter that I was consistently playing.

Fei’s improved focus attack should be godly in SSF4. That alone is a pretty nice buff.

I heard it from people who have played the penultimate build. Her crouching forward now hits as it should looking at the animation. No more hitbox at the ankle and misleading wiffs.

i hope this is true

So I heard the whole Focus Attacks as a whole got faster in SSFIV, so ppl talking about Viper’s being faster. However is it only faster by virtue of everybody’s being faster or by it actually being improved specifically in any way? I really hope it can at least be fast enough to put fear into jab straight spamming Rog’s, I think it’s really fucked up how much he can abuse that move without too much fear of her FA.

It’s all relative anyways. Everyone’s FA got faster in the first place so really its not much different from SF4 other than faster reactions.

Well they said the only character who’s focus attack got slower was Seth’s so hopefully that will entail that Viper has a quick focus that can shut down annoying dash straights from Rog a bit more effectively. That or I’m not using Viper against Rog anymore. LOL.

Speaking of Balrog, it’s a tad jarring that he can’t be thrown from EX Dashes anymore. Rogs don’t throw it out from afar very often, but if they did up close, I’d just throw. Oh well, guess I’ll just HP TK them out of it.

And yeah, hopefully a faster FA will mean dealing with Dash Straights better. If I’m quickly reacting to it, using FA would be easier than LP TK.

I heard he could be thrown thats been reverted, not entirely sure though.

Ah, they’ve changed it back? That’s cool. Lol, they keep changing things then changing them back. Can’t they make up their minds?

If Viper gets faster FA, does this mean we can finally abuse FA --> FFF combo?
Sounds pretty sweet. Now days I find it almost impossible to land this combo.