Blue blazes, he's AWESOME! The Nova Thread!

of course your near boned but you act like It’s never going to happen , I’ve seen so many 1 character comebacks in this game It’s stupid

I’m putting him first because I belive with the right assists he will beastly
the fact you activate xfactor first will make his red life power up well less powerfull and will eventually make the boost redundant,

strategy depends on the person , that’s why I said if we are arguing about where he is best he prob will be good anyware , there isn’t a one strat fits all for any character in the game

your reasons for him as anchor apply for him anyware

My reasons for anchor do not applY everywhere. You can freely use any super and special you want on point without repercussion? No.

You can essentially give him ridiculous comeback potential with X-Factor and Nova Force with him on point? No.

Activating X-Factor doesn’t make him less powerful. It gives him a better power-up without using red life yet still allows you to use Nova Force if you can’t end it with X-Factor.

You don’t get any of that using him on point. On point you have to use red life to get that extra power. You really like the idea of sacrificing from the cornerstone of your team? Your opponent will be pleased.

Nova doesn’t appear to have great options at fullscreen other than above average mobility. That alone would make me prefer to play him in the first or second slot so I would have access to an assist.

However, he is flexible enough that he can probably do well anywhere.

Opinions subject to change when actual game releases

Can you freely use any super you want as anchor without any repercussions? No it takes red health no matter what that’s a repercussion ANY place he is

he isn’t going to have comeback factor being on point , how do you know he won’t sweep teams aside like magneto can ? same thing different order , you don’t even know how good his level 3 xfactor will be and his assists may Gimp your 2nd character because they are not great

you can activate xfactor what at any point there isn’t just a level 3 xfactor ,

why would I kill my own character lol if losing that red health means I cripple there team I will use that 200k or whatever without a second thought and if I’m living on all red life , (when dose this happen) just DHC

I just gotta laugh. I’m done with this argument.

Ok I’m not done because above is pure stupidity.

When you’re last alive on a team red life doesn’t matter. You can’t regain it other than by using X-Factor. Use your X-Factor to extend your survivability, then use Nova Force because as I said RED LIFE DOESN’T MATTER WHEN YOU’RE LAST ON THE TEAM ALIVE.

Go ahead and blow your x-factor on point, again doing you’re opponent a favor. Now for the rest of the game you can’t guard cancel, set up extended combos, etc. Congrats.

Using red life on point hurts them yes, but it also hurts you. You’re doing damage to yourself. Sure as the opponent I don’t want to lose my character, but you just sacrificed a chunk of life you could’ve gotten back. You don’t do your opponent favors. I thought that’d be an easy concept to understand.

meh… i see novas red health powerup as inconsistent at best. it WILL be something to take into account… but at this point i dont see any reason for him to be better at anchor than first. sure at anchor he has the POTENTIAL to have 2 comeback mechanics… but the stars are really going to need to align for that kind of thing… if that kind of thing is needed at anchor just pick a character that has xf tod’s AND a comboable lvl 3… there you go, 2 comeback mechanics. as it is… nova doesnt even have a lvl 3 cause his red hp is supposed to do it for him… but thats just a weaker than lvl 3 mechanic imho. novas red hp supers will be good in a variety of situations… but matchup experience will make those situations a little less advantaged, plus nova sitting on lots of red hp will be a direct giveaway to not get hit and turtle him out. then theres always snapin to counter his red hp…

his red hp will only be good imho in the following situations:

huge life/character lead
nova on point or as second with big red health looking for a bad assist call so he can super it on reaction.
if hes going to kill a character via red health powerup
if his red health is very small like only 5-10% of his full hp bar (then he can use the red hp to slightly power up his super yet still not really be putting himself into much danger)

basically it will be an on the fly, sometimes available sometimes not, powerup… and the holy grail of best times to use it (when he has like 75% of full bar in red health or more AND his opponent is on there last character AND novas xf is already done) probably wont be seen much.

sure the holy grail will come about from time to time. but that situation isnt one that will be seen frequently.

bottom line imho is that his red hp game will be a fun DYNAMIC, gimmick to take advantage of when its there and when the situation is right. if your blasting off red powered supers everytime you get a combo from half red hp or more… your nova will be dying ALOT.

the only real way to make that a positive for your team is to put nova on point as a battery that can build meter, yet doesnt have to use much of it to POTENTIALLY kill… leaving more meter for his teammates. that is of course assuming that nova manages to get 50% or more red health while on point without dying while also hitting with a combo or tagging a badly called assist. i mean, just cause hes running around with 50-75% red health doesnt mean that hes going to be able to initiate a combo. he could die while hes got all that red health stored up.

if hes at anchor and has 75% red health and does a combo into red super, then activates XF, sure thats 2 comback mechanics hes making use of… but thats so situational.

anywho if his red health mechanics work the way they seem to work thats how i see his red health buffs being applied… gimmicky at best imho.

-dime

How can it be gimmicky when it uses his life bar? That’s a serious part of the game to put off as a gimmick.

Using him on point is going to limit you every time. It’s not going to be situational. You’re limited unless you make unnecessary sacrifices.

all I was saying is is uses your red health no matter what so why is using it on point worse than using it as anchor It’s going hurt him either way, red life matters when you are last because there will be times when you need it back , what will you do then?

I’m not even going to get into why using xfactor level 1 to kill a character sometimes is one of the best things you can do

the situation you are talking about is situational at best and most likely won’t happen every game

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It’s not stupid because I want to use a character a different way to you , I never said he couldn’t work as a anchor

you are saying he is useless on point remember that

It’s not stud because you want to use him on point. What’s stupid is your reasoning and the fact that you don’t seem to understand basic game mechanics.

When yourethe last character alive, you can get red life back without X-Factor. You can’t. Red life at that point is useless, thus making Nova Force a huge bonus at that stage because you can use it without repercussion.

CTG’s reaosoning is coreects. Red life is a slight liability when on point, but as an anchor it’s not a liability at all.

However, I don’t see red life as a major component of Nova’s game, and given his toolset, I would prefer him on point to anchor.

*opinion subject to change when I get to play the game.

because there is no guarantee that he will have red hp? and using the red hp will NOT always be to his benefit? that means that it will be situational… VERY situational… and situational things are basically in a nutshell, gimmicks.

i dont really see how you can say that it isnt situational. you cant let yourself get hit… i mean you COULD, but that would of course be dumb as fuck. so basically you will have to wait for your life to be red, which is situational.

in the point your talking about, you are basically saying that hes better at anchor because at that point with him being last, if he does decide to sacrifice red hp it means less cause hes last, ie if he were to do it on point as first character well hes got more characters to fight, so its bad to EVER use red hp when first or second if there are other characters on the opponents team… but realistically that also applies to when hes at anchor… the only time it will receive the benefits that i think you are applying to it is when hes the last character on his team against the last character on their team.

note that this ALSO applies to when hes the first character on his team and they are on their last character… basically that makes his “sacrifice” less of a sacrifice. but in any circumstance its situational.

at anchor if hes down 3-1 he still cant use his red hp cause he still has to fight off 2 characters assuming that he killed the first one in combo.

the way im seeing it its just like quicks and honzo are saying, the benefits and detractions weigh no matter where he is cause you really dont want to use a dangerous amount of red health unless its going to kill a character or kill a team… ie last character on their team.

so… decuction says that hes no better at point than at anchor, based on what we know about him. unless you want to use all your red life on the first character you kill as anchor then be fighting 2-1 with a an anchor that only has 25% health left… doesnt seem smart to me.

-dime

Nova will be best on point with 2 assists to back up his insane mix up options. That isn’t to say you shouldn’t play him where you want to. Middle, anchor, upside down, naked. Play him with whoever and where ever you want, no one is going to stop you. Argument over.

but you can with xfactor

so will it be best to xfactor early which makes the red health boost less effective because you will recover your red health or super first then you have nothing to recover?

dose that make sence ?

actually, i was having a damned brain fart… i apologize to CTG. i understand now that basically what hes saying is that if nova is at anchor and has red hp and is last charatcer that he might as well use his red hp cause he no longer has enough time to heal it… he will die next combo no matter what if he gets hit. and random hits that dont combo will be no more scary than when he had lots of red hp.

sorry dude i totally wasnt getting you, i guess maybe i read you wrong or your bad at explaining yourself :slight_smile:

still, i see it as situational. no guarantee that a nova at anchor will have enough red hp to matter to his super. so putting him there in order to protect his ability to use red hp, or to try and abuse it is just kind of far fetched to me ATM… but still its not like anchors always have to comeback 3-1. if hes down 1 1/2 to 1 then his red hp powerup might come in handy… that is once again if hes even allowed to have red hp by not just getting tod’d.

still see it as gimmicky, but i admit there is more merit to the logic that CTG is using than i at first realized.

sorry bro.

-dime

one thing to remember is that if you’re using his assist and he gets hit, he takes damage in red life. however, if he gets hard tagged, snapped, or brought in due to a previous character death he’ll auto-lose that red life!

i think the red health sacrifice will be most effective on point as his power boost will be most easily used there

but another thing to think about is running nova second and spamming his assist, see if he takes some red life, and use a DHC to the red health sac move as a finisher on a problem character.

Yo, how bout we wait till the game comes out, put him through the real life test, then come back to argue his position. Theory fighting each other just leads to headache and pointless post imo.

  • holds out hand of truce to ctg*

we ain’t got much info to talk about hence this again

On a less angry note…

1, 4, 5, and 6 look pretty good.