A lot of factors go into that, distance from edge of the screen, where the OTG grapple hit them, some characters fall faster. sometimes you cant follow it up with a super unless you team hyper combo, and is only worth it if you have someone with a beam super. imo
most of the time that combo is just a judgement call.
so if the combo doesn’t hit should I just let them fall?
if, as soon as you land, you think it wont hit. Yes.
Like I said, how to end the combo is a judgement call. as you play youll know what to expect & what will work?
outside of doing a super, you can do a Zip-line downforward and go for a relaunch/reset. or just do another air wire grapple
Question.
I have seen a lot of videos where Spencer links a standing S with a QCF H. Is there a particular timing to make that connect?
Thanks.
You have to do the H grapple as a tk move, so it’s like you’re doing the otg…same motion, but different result since S would normall make you super jump.
S xx qcuf (quarter circle up-forward) + H.
Also be careful to make sure that you’re underneath them (not too far offset) or the up grapple won’t touch them. Enjoy 
Kei
More precisely, you use the same motion as you would for a TK but you don’t delay the button press after going to up-forward. This is because the objective is not to jump and then instantly do an up, but because jump startup can be cancelled to special moves, and hitting up will cancel :s: into a super jump. In other words, you jump-cancel-cancel from :s: to :qcf::uf::h:.
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Highest Regards to All,
Karst
Thank you both. I got the hang of it. It is pretty damn useful.
No problem, it’s pretty crazy how much damage you can get using this technique!
Kei
Hey Kei, I’ve been messing around with Spencer over the last week, and I’m thinking of putting him up against NoLoader in next week’s Jam Session. Think you could give me a few pointers on how to use him? If your on PSN it’d be great to play a couple of games to.
just incase anyone is interested …make me offers
Spencer Players, enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6herLgcGus&feature=mfu_in_order&list=ULhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oV0Gr7ylNw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY unscaled vertical grapple is still in !!!
And big lols at being able to super cancel the L followup to grapples, what the hell were they thinking?
Guess he also recovers quicker from armor piercer too, he can land a launcher after connecting it midscreen.
ahahaha goddamn this is gonna be awesome. loving the use of DFA there. Supercanceling Grapple-A is amazing. maybe I should of learned how to do a couple vertical Grapple-A with my team. lol
or ill just use Persona’s relaunch combo to avoid the wallbouce till later since DFA is amazing, I thought it was a ground bounce, not a Knockdown OTG.
“Let’s make this character top tier.”
Man if I could have three Spencer’s on my team… I would.
Enjoy UMVC Spencer while you can folks, there’s no way they’re not gonna tweak him lol. So good. My day 1 objective is to find a combo with as many unscaled Hs as possible ;).
im having a really hard time landing mid screen combos with him…after grapple and then grapple dash i always miss .
LOL, just imagine 3 spencers.
BIONIC ARRRRRRRRRRRRM, BIONIC ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRM, BIONIC ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRM!!!
i had the exact same problem…what i realized helped was when you diagnal zip to him and hit him with j.H, you land and jump and do j.M, j.H…into watever follow up…the timing has definately changed…(UMVC3 of coarse)
Spencer is so broken right now I don’t even know what to say.
I fucking LOVE it