I don’t watch it for the crowd.
Nevermind the Hilde matches, the final between Ivy and Soph were really nice. Except for the “USA!” chant, that was a bit silly. :rolleyes:
3 and 4 were shit. It’s like when namco stopped putting the games in arcades first, shit just got stupid. Arcades were the best playtesting they had, so they could revise it as many times as needed to lose the dumb shit before the home version. And the fact that they made everything so scrub-friendly (simplified commands and button-mash for EVERYTHING) just chafes. If they ever pull that shit with the Tekken series, I’m done with them.
The first 2 get my vote on an even level, although the first game had the best music (I like Nightmare’s and Hwang’s stage music).
SC2 was too perfect
Anybody who says the game has gotten “worse” really has no idea what they’re talking about.
The biggest system changes has really been the Parry to the Ground and CF. Which really don’t alter the game as much as people make it seem (Unless you play other fighters and try to block all day without trying to evade your opponent. Then you’re gonna get CF’d).
SC1 was easily the most fun. However it lacked in that some characters were almost “doubles”.
Sc2 was apparently the most “balanced” but whoever says that is talking Shyt because Xianghua dominated that game, and G2 really ruined the GI game.
EVERYBODY talks about how good SC2 was and how SC3 sucks because of all the glitches. But IN FACT SC2 had MORE GLITCHES than SC3 (G2 safe post GI, ThrowEscapeRecover, TER GI cancels, Mitsu Attack Throw cancels, etc). The advantage was that SC2 basically added to everyones movelist, and kept all their cancels atc intact. However they TONED DOWN the GI system, which I hated
SC3 everyone cried becuase all of their bread and butter moves/combos were gone. Which is good on Namco’s part because otherwise we’d be playing SC2 with new stages and characters but nothing changed. The fact that everyone had to essentially “re-learn” the game was a blessing and a burden. TRUE fans had a totally new game to experience with each character. Old fans cried about Nerfs and G22 (Variable Cancel) and spread the word that no one should play it. The community attempted to Ban VC but others said “If it aint broke dont fix it”.
SC4 is a great game. Most characters again were changed, but not as drastic as before. In Fact in SC4 they only gave you the moves you really need to use, whereas SC1-SC3 there were plenty of moves that were plain useles…and took up movelist space.
In the end people will always complain about changes they don’t understand. I cant wait until an onslught of complaints come in about said character being nerfed in SSF4
Winner - SC1
wasnt Cervantes the best in Soul Cal 2 ?
I recall hearing/reading on several occasions that Xia was god tier in 2 too, but I wouldn’t know about it… We played it a lot at my school but we were so scrubby.
Unless I’m getting 2 and 3 mixed up.
Isn’t that already a perfect description of tekken? Launch -> mash juggles -> win?
@Rhio
The button mash in SC4 isn’t friendly at all… I can’t pull of the just frame on Cervantes crouching A+B. Mash B seven times during the move? That’s really hard. And I’m on stick. I watched a youtube, and the guy had 3 stick buttons in a row bound to B so he could just drag his finger over them. I don’t want to do that, it’s weak…
And pulling of the just frame on that is, or so I hear, the differene between the move being totally useless or the move being really useful since just frame adds a guard break and leaves you at +frames, while the non just frame is totally unsafe.
Or what sort of mashing are we talking? Like mash to get combos? Most of the juggles I’ve tried have included timing to get any/all damage. Cervantes combos includes lots of just frame psycho crushers as well (since the non just frame has so much startup)
It seems like every 2D player I meet thinks SC is a button mashers game. Thats most likely because they played against a Maxi and got button mashed to death. Which proves YOU didn’t know what you were doing in the first place and thats why Button Mashing >>> YOU.
The other gripe people seem to have with the serious is a GUARD button. Seems like people don’t want to think and just wish Back is always block. SF has spoiled you people.
Anyways J. Wong is playing SC4 now. Get excited…
You clearly didnt know what you were watching then. Matches didnt even get interesting until the semi-finals, and even then there were still 2 or 3 Hilde’s in the running that kept doing the bullshit full screen ring-out combo she has.
People were boo-ing during Soul Calibur 4.
Dino you cant convince anyone with a straight face that Soul Calibur 4 was good. The more I play Tekken 6…then turn around and play Soul Calibur 4, the more foolish I see the system as. So situational. Grey areas within the basic structure, the fights are so random. The game is a joke. The series is on a downward spiral.
You need to play tekken, and this time, UNDERSTAND what’s going on. You’re talking like someone who just watches people play it.
Right. Damage scaling is severe in Tekken, so once you get juggled for what seems like ages, you still have a nice bit of lifebar left. If you guess wrong again and get juggled for even longer, by now youve probably hit a wall, and if you guess wrong AGAIN…then you probably deserved to lose that round from oki mixups.
Since juggles dont do a ridiculous amount of damage anymore, theres really no need to cry over seemingly endless juggles and the entire premise of the game being to bait the other person to whiff so you can knock them into the air.
Yah BItch - So situational…Grey Areas…Random fights!!!
Clearly you don’t understand anything about Soul Calibur and its not even worth trying to show how stupid you are.
This reminds me about how everyone hates Techno. Yet now anything Mainstream is trying to introduce techno stuff.
When Justin Wong plays SC4 everyone will see the light. Right now people only are blinding themselves based on other’s bias opinions.
Its okay though. I dont expect anyone on SRK to be able to think clearly for themselves and make their own opinions. When people are asking “SHOULD I BUY TEKKEN” clearly these people struggle to think for themselves.
Yea BItch…you’re a dumb bitch.
Oh yea…they were boo-ing Hilde…not the game. It was SC fans doing the cheering/booing. Even the announcers were surprised by the noise. Get your shyt straight.
Lol. Dude im moderator of the Zasalamel forum on 8wayrun. Ive played everyone from Oofmatic to Bentlee, so your approval isnt what really matters to be honest.
Soul Calibur 4 is garbage. And thats just all there is to it.
You are not alone. SC 1 for DC was the best for me. Didnt SC 2 had some shit unbalanced with Taki? Just my bad memory… :wasted:
After playing SC2 on arcade and then console for over a year I got a chance to play 1 of our best SC2 players for about 20-30 matches. That’s when I realized how you had to play in order to win and it put me off playing SC2 completely. With Tekken 4 getting such a slating everywhere at the time and having admired the VF series for so long without ever really getting into them properly I decided to make VF4:Evo my main fighter from then on. The match replays on the disc were inspiring and there was plenty of help and tools to help get better. I also had a lot more confidence in Sega AM2 than Namco after SC2 and T4.
The very first Soul Calibur was the best in my opinion. Had it for Dreamcast and enjoyed it completely. The others are good, but that one was the best.
Never got crazy into Soul Calibur. But 2 was the only one i enjoyed alot. I owned the ps2 version, but the real fun was playing the xbox version. Spawn was pretty crazy stuff, and though it was a gimmick, it was a pretty fun one…to me at least.
I don’t know what it is, but the one I have the fondest memories for is Soul Blade on PS1. I remember playing Soul Edge in the arcades on holiday a few times, and I really dug it, and was ecstatic when I learned it would be coming to the Playstation soon after, as Soul Blade. The main “arcade” mode was all I remembered from playing Soul Edge on that holiday, and I liked the “interactive” endings on the home version. I remember trying to get all the weapons and such and enjoying doing that, with the special conditions required to earn the weapons, and it never felt like a chore to do it.
I also dug the first Soul Calibur on Dreamcast. I just saw it as a more polished, flashier version of Soul Blade. And it had Yoshimitsu in it, who I felt really fit in well, in terms of fighting style, and they redesigned him to “Fit” with the Soul series. OF course he’s not the same one as in Tekken, but he kind of is. I thought that was cool.
SC2 has a special place in my heart as it kept me sane for a long time when I was out in France working as an English Language assistant. I git a Gamecube for christmas that year and that game and Sonic Heroes helped me through something I really didn’t want to be doing.
SC3 was OK, more of the same. didn’t really grip me in the way the previous ones did. I wasn’t much into gaming at that time, and if I was, it was usually a wrestling game.
SC4, I played for maybe a week, and them put it away and never touched it until I got my Madcatz SE Fightstick, and that was just to test it. I played VF5 on a more consistent basis, and that was even when I was still using that dreadful Xbox 360 D-pad. one of the things that infuriated me playing was the way the customisation worked. I didn’t mind it in terms of the weapons, as I was familiar with that going all the way back to Soul Blade. What bugged me was the clothing items, and how, in order to have a decent character in story mode, it meant he looked like a complete tool as well. Seems like a little thing, but it really got to me. I didn’t mind having the means to alter certain attributes and abilites, like dealing damage to blocking opponents and the like, but I just hated how it depended on what t your character of choice was wearing. I ended up just using it as a weak excuse to make Ivy or Taki wear even less. I got bored.
I might get Broken Destiny for PSP, but I don’t really play my PSP much.
No, they should add Triple H, with his ridiculous Conan-inspired “King of Kings” gear from Wrestlemania 22:
http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/hsdemonz/WM22/3rd/NDVD_009.jpg
And make him a ridiculously overpowered boss to the degree that he wins every time, like he does in WWE. ON YOUR KNEES, DOG!