Best Fighting Game of the Generation?

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  • It is true that the more recent Tekken has been taken better care than the neglected VF5. Also VF had trouble turning popular outside Japan, to the point that Sega had to put aside Eternal Champions so as to promote that game. VF needs an update desperately and also good online code. Sega unfortunately are dissapointing in the online play department. While in gameplay those games may be tight, in the rest Tekken and DOA far surpass VF. But even during the arcade days, DOA and Tekken were more popular than VF. Each game has a dedicated fanbase.

-Regarding anime fighters, the irony is that just like shmups (eg Touhou) they thrive not on consoles or arcades, but on PC. Blazblue and Guilty Gear are just the exception to the rule. The online play there is also much better than the console version. Eg Guilty Gear Reload for PC is much better than Guilty Gear R for online. Because as has been proven with Skullgirls, online play requires constant tweaks, something consoles are too slow or expensive to adapt to. this might change with the new consoles, but I dont see many anime fighters and fighters in general making their way there. DRM there is even worse, adding also the subscriptions.
Fighters are even playable online on PC in console emulators with much better netplay than their console versions.
Eg you can play CvSNK 2 that way, but not on PSN, since it is only the offline version.
Shows really how far behind the approach of console publishers is.
a much smaller user base enjoys those games, sometimes for free if they dont own any copy, while the majority of console gamers are screwed over despite paying for the product.

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so so soooooo obviously King Of Fighters XIII.

Get Steam Edition bitches, it is 15 bucks right now.

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Base on popularity, SF4AE2012 no doubt

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I agree, I’ve played many fighters that are disregarded for some aesthetic reason.
Poor phantom breaker, tries to do everything and accomplishes little to nothing.

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AE and KOFXIII. I really can’t complain about this generation though, such a variety of good fighting games came out.

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You got to remember that aesthetics is incredibly important in the entire game industry, there are many excellent games whose sales greatly suffer due to this. In the fighting genre aesthetics are even more important, cause often people either want to play as a character who looks like who they would like to be, or as a character to gawk at (hot babes). This is why badass looking males and sexy developed scantily clad females are so popular. Gameplay is ultimately what will keep people playing, but art and looks is what draws them in.

Also on DOA, it is pretty popular. Maybe not among hardcore fighting people but among casuals. People love the big boobs, and fan service.

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That last sentence is a a good point(albeit, probably unintentional). Yes, boobs draw people in, but if it’s in-your-face like it is with DOA and Skullgirls, it tends to have a very negative affect on how the game is perceived by anyone who doesn’t care about the titties.

For instance, Skullgirls is looked down upon by a lot of people because of the blatant fan service. Ignoring the controversies about sexualized females, many guys that aren’t hormonal teenage boys or anime geeks tend to be embarrassed to play something like that. I know it’s hypocritical when you consider the huge popularity of superheroes, which are mostly buffed out dudes in tights, but that’s just the society we live in. It’s very easy to jump to the conclusion that a game that seems to focus so much on sexuality isn’t made to be taken seriously. The mantra “sex sells” pops into the mind, which makes it very easy to dismiss something as being made to make a quick buck.

Unfortunately, these types of knee-jerk reactions stop people from enjoying something very rich and worth playing. Personally, I can do without huge, jiggly breasts in every video game. I get no sexual gratification from it, and I think it jeopardizes the reputation of the game for no good reason. I can kind of understand if it’s some sort of statement or artistic vision, and it very well might be true in some cases. But the nagging thought in the back of my mind that says they are just trying to sell titties to teenage boys and basement dwellers doesn’t go away.

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I am a pervert and I don’t like DoA, I just think it’s a horrible game.

Except it’s not really developed, fans ask for cheesecake designs as reported by just about everyone in the industry.

DOA has really bad sales, it’s not popular by any means.

I do, but not from Skullgirls, the art is too exaggerated. I understand many people get turned off from gratuitous fan service and I think that Team Ninja is doing it entirely wrong, team ninja definitely is trying to sell jiggling titties to teenagers and basement dwellers (beach volleyball)

I don’t understand why video games are so firmly rooted in the social justice crusade, every (non-joke) celebrity is thin and attractive, but people just attack video games because they could be designed differently. You could cast a fat person in a TV or movie role, but you don’t because society is very critical and only consumes attractive thin people.

Personally I think there just needs to be more things like jojo with overly sexualized men to balance out all the titties.

So could DoA5 be considered the game of the generation? I have to say no, there have been WAY more TTT2 tournies, WAY WAY WAY more TTT2 streams, events, youtube videos, way more people play TTT2, TTT2 has better sales, how can DoA5 be considered the fighting game of this generation if it is in the shadow of another game?

I still feel like the best fighting game of the generation should be shared among titles based on their category.
The best 3D game is TTT2, heaps and heaps of people are talking about it, it has tons of coverage, it should probably be TTT2
The most popular 2D game is either MvC3 or SFIV. SFIV has online and is more accessible, it has a larger playerbase, but MvC3 did attract more viewers last Evo.
The best 2D game mechanically is a toss up between KoF and Guilty Gear, with many people championing both, I’m in the KoF camp because of how accessible it is (especially with the steam version).

BRING MORE FIGHTING GAMES TO PC ;-;

Like blazblue, I wish bbcp was on steam, why did pc get the first bb and no more? A sony conspiracy to restrict anime fighting games to the Ps3 in an attempt to murder the 360 fighting scene despite the fact that capcom doesn’t know how to make a fighting game work on the ps3.

Seriously I hope there’s no ps4 lag in capcom titles, I would go apeshit if there was.

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  1. Dead or Alive 3 sold 1.77 million units on xbox according to VGChartz, Dead or Alive 2 sold a cool million on PS2.
  2. When I said “developed” I meant post puberty.
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Lol that brony with the powerpuff girls av said underage girls are badass

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VF5FS netcode is better than both TTT2 and DOA5U netcode

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12 years ago doesn’t seem very relevant…

But in the same year that DoA 2 sold “a cool million” TTT reaped 4, that’s more than DoA2 and DoA3 combined.
Then in 2003, a few years after DoA2, tekken 4 got 3.44 million.
Soulcalibur 2 net 2.06 on ps2, 1.5 on gc, and “a cool million” on xbox two years after DoA3, even VF4 outsold either.

And the sales for DoA 5 don’t compare well to current 3D fighters, so where’s this DoA crowd that stayed for the doa gameplay which you claim?

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1, Oh yeah I’m not comparing DOA to Tekken, no way. Tekken is probably the most popular of 3d fighters. I’m just saying DOA’s initial success in earlier installments was probably somewhat attributed to the busty babes…well and having Ryu Hyabusa of Ninja Gaiden fame in it.

I don’t know who stayed, I just remember it made a big splash in early installments. I knew lots of people who picked it up who weren’t even into fighting games. Soul Caliber and Tekken were both series that also brought in many people who weren’t into fighting games.

  1. About Skullgirls…I think it isn’t the fan service, but other factors that hinder its popularity. First it is an indie game, not by a huge famous studio like Arksystems, Namco, Capcom, SNK, etc. 2nd it has a very small cast, presently there are 9, and 4 more will arrive soon to make 13 total. 3rd It is an all girl cast, which may make some people who have never played the game assume that it is just a fan service fest.
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Sales figures are really no indication of how good a game is, so mentioning them is irrelevant. They aren’t even useful as any sort of general reference. Sales figures flat out do not mean a thing when comparing titles.

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ITT: “This fighting game is not the best because of petty, superficial reasons”

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Tekken Tag Tournament 2.

Solid gameplay.

Balanced characters(somehow, with +60 I think).

Amazing visuals.

Outstanding presentation.

Good and fair game mechanics.

Great music(and if you don’t think it’s good, you can quite literally change the music to whatever the fuck you want, why this isn’t in every game current/next gen game is beyond me).

Easy to get into, but hard to master and actually rewarding if you learn how to play beyond the basics.

A ton of content, including customization(even to the point of letting you “create” a character for to use in unranked fights), game modes/types, and free DLC. Lots of Variety, in general.

Stable online play(with an online practice mode too, which is another thing that should be in every current/next gen fighter).

And probably a few other things that I cant think of at the moment because I not so smart.

Anyway, TTT2 is just the best fighting game of the generation, IN MY OPINION, it has all the bases covered for this kind of thing.

I’m definitely not anywhere near any kind of master competitive fighting game expert or anything, so if i’m just plain wrong about something, that sucks for me I guess.

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AMEN

Example the Twilight series
Successful, only god knows why but yes, Best? Ha Ha Ha.

Stop reading when I saw “tier”

Actually I read more and though you are more full of it than a man who constipated and haven’t gone in a week.

We did not need your authority whats good and whats not, we just asked one question.

I don’t play AH3 because I am not a Pedo

As for DOA, if I want to look at girls in bikinis on the beach I open up a copy of Sports Illustrated Swim Suit issue. If I want to be turned on by pretty women I look at actual porn or make out with a real flesh and blood woman.
Yes I am a pervert too but “CG girls the video game” does nothing for me.

I agree with you and DOA. I get more excitement out of 4chan Google image search for 5 seconds than I can with DOA.

Feminism and social crusades in gaming, dude that can spawn several threads on its own.

There more “anime” games on the PS3 than Xbox 360 as Xbox 360 was poorly received in Japan and there alot of National Pride with Sony.
Xbox mostly got the Douche-bros, the NLF and FIFA fans and the FPS gamers (FPS is better on the PC)
And Microsoft managed to screw things up further than they ever could try if they wanted to with the Xbox One. I think Microsoft made the whole country of Japan their enemy by delaying release for over a year their.

Hey not all us MLP fans are freaks.* - the guy with the Usagi avatar* (the avatar is a inside joke on Tech Talk).
I was like 10 or 11 when Sailor Moon came out so its more of a nostalgia thing and the show Sailor Moon is 22 yrs old now.

I find a fighting game where every character young enough to pass off as my daughters kinda disturbing.
And this is coming from the due who watches My Little Pony Friendship is magic.

What I feel is the best?
*
Mongol General: Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.*

Actually…

For me its a toss up between Skull Girls, Injustice (just because the made DC characters work in a fighting game) and Blazblue. SFIV and KoF XIII are kinda runners up.

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In fairness Sony delayed the ps4 launch in japan, and getting the hardware early doesn’t mean anything when 2 years from now is when you REALLY want to own the hardware…

And while I agree that most successful =/= the best I do agree that something that is unsuccessful can’t be the best. If it was the best then it would’ve been successful, perhaps not the most successful, but definitely successful.

Noticing how the discussion is flowing in this thread TTT2 seems like a shoe in because for the most part is seems like the 3D fighting game fans are united behind it, while 2D fans squabble endlessly.

Also sailor moon rules, FUCK THE HATERS.
WTB a ps4 sailor moon fighting game (with good netcode)

I think that’s the first injustice vote…

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Dis still going on. KOFXIII end of discussion

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lets hope so!

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