BattleField Arcadia XI: Rogue Squadron Results

[Bisonopolis]

John doesnt pay attention to TvC matchups. He saw it happen to joe and that’s the only experience he has with the game. It’s got nothing to do with who joe is.

[BKBalrog]

But I thought you said that you’ll make it to top 8 with that character…

Changed my mind, I’d rather get top 8 with a character I like to play with. Plus with Super on the way, i don’t wanna waste my time with a character i wont use much going forward just to prove a point.

[SweetJohnnyCage]

Yea I just saw it happen to him and Brad did it to me when we played. Even after the kid did it to Joe at the launch, the kid dropped his pad and asked, “Is that allowed? If it’s not then I’ll change characters.” I think if the player who did it thinks it’s broken should be a sure sign that it’s unfair. If it wasn’t Joe I’d still say the same thing.

[DS]

Yea I just saw it happen to him and Brad did it to me when we played. Even after the kid did it to Joe at the launch, the kid dropped his pad and asked, “Is that allowed? If it’s not then I’ll change characters.” I think if the player who did it thinks it’s broken should be a sure sign that it’s unfair. If it wasn’t Joe I’d still say the same thing.

Yes, because some random kid that doesn’t play at a high level understands what’s going on. Game just came out and we’re banning shit at a moment’s notice.

Brb, reading Smash boards. Oh wait, I think I’m replying to a post on a Smash board.

[Keits]

I haven’t read the entire TvC argument, but even at the launch at Nintendo World I saw someone use PTX, put Joe in the corner, and Joe couldn’t do anything. In my professional opinion, that shit is ASS. Pretty broken if a character can continuously grab you in the corner and even after a burst they can just repeat the process.

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Aside from that, very entertaining tournament from what I watched. GS to everyone who played.

Triforce, any idea if you’ll run another 2v2 SF4 tournament?

Yeah, again, banning something because you dont know how to beat it is bad… but banning something because you dont know how to play is shameful. Why didn’t one of you just call my cell phone and ask how to beat that shit? At least 6 of you have my phone number.

[Cryoh]

I haven’t read the entire TvC argument, but even at the launch at Nintendo World I saw someone use PTX, put Joe in the corner, and Joe couldn’t do anything. In my professional opinion, that shit is ASS. Pretty broken if a character can continuously grab you in the corner and even after a burst they can just repeat the process.

You can tech out of the PTX and G. Lightan grabs on lazy reaction.

[oShiineo]

im getting a session going down wednesday lemme knw if you can make it
btw if you dont know abut this guy yu need to follow him
http://www.youtube.com/user/desora24

you will always learn something from his gouken

Desora is my very inspiration and idol. haha. Alot of my tricks had originally came from him

[Bisonopolis]

Seriously. Other than Cryon you guys are being turds.

[yourmother]

I haven’t read the entire TvC argument, but even at the launch at Nintendo World I saw someone use PTX, put Joe in the corner, and Joe couldn’t do anything. In my professional opinion, that shit is ASS. Pretty broken if a character can continuously grab you in the corner and even after a burst they can just repeat the process.

This is a joke, right?

How about you go take a trip over to the TvC forums and look through the old threads for, oh I dunno, about a fucking day after the first TvC came out and a bunch of smash players started posting shit about PTX “chain grabs.” Watch how long it took for us to bust that shit up over a year ago. I’ll give you a hint, less than a day. And yet you who obviously doesn’t know how to play this game or care to ask anyone who does just decides that it’s ban worthy? Give me a fucking break.

Yea I like how when people thought it was jus me, i get called a scrub, but if it’s Joe people “understand the frustrations”… I personally feel like the giants detract from the game, but if they’re in then fuck it, I play with megaman anyway, once i learn the matchup im goooood

I’m still calling everyone who voted to ban the giants a scrub. According to what you said and what triforce said, none of you stepped up to the plate to even try to learn how to play the game, you just pussed out because you were scared of losing this one tournament. I can understand that that’s frustrating to have to deal with, but banning it to avoid that frustration, that makes you a scrub.

[System_1]

So like are giants still banned or what? Btw just outta curiosity why you people hating on smash players XD

[Bisonopolis]

This is a joke, right?

How about you go take a trip over to the TvC forums and look through the old threads for, oh I dunno, about a fucking day after the first TvC came out and a bunch of smash players started posting shit about PTX “chain grabs.” Watch how long it took for us to bust that shit up over a year ago. I’ll give you a hint, less than a day. And yet you who obviously doesn’t know how to play this game or care to ask anyone who does just decides that it’s ban worthy? Give me a fucking break.

He doesn’t play the fucking game. The TWO times he’s seen it was at nintendo world when he first saw the PTX stuff. And again when I was testing out how the game plays at Joes and I did it to him. He doesn’t follow the game and he doesn’t play the game. PLUS he wasn’t one of the people who voted for the ban of the giants nor was he even at the event. He’s speaking from very limited experience there. So why don’t you go eat a dick and chill the fuck out.

[Master_Chibi]

Real talk the giants kinda kill the game, I think the game would be wildly better without them.

Fucking shit still can’t believe Phoenix could have made it.

[Kazuhiro]

Damn… Dudes still arguing over banning/allowing giants even though both of them are buns.

Put the fucking salt away and learn the matchups. Most of what Keits said about the matchup is true - when learned, Giants are pretty hopeless.

[MegamanSteve]

Yea, I think the arguing still going on is a mute point now, its obvious that the giants wont be banned after all this, and pretty sure anyone in here intending to go to the next Battlefield TvC tourney reading all this will make sure they know how to fight the giants before its over and done wit… anyway to more pressing matters…THE SQUARE SHOULD BE BANNED IN TETRIS!!! I HATE THAT SHIT…:xeye:

[Alzarath]

lol how pathetic.

[yourmother]

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Well obviously he doesn’t know the game, but if he doesn’t know about it, he shouldn’t be in here telling people that it’s “ass” or “unfair”. If he’s gonna argue that the giants are either of those things, than I’m gonna argue against him, so you can just deal with that.

[Bisonopolis]

Perhaps re-read his post? He explains what he experienced to make it seem that way to him. He even says “in his opinion” that its ass. Maybe stop being such an elitist dick and popping off whenever someone says something. You could have done what others did and explain why it isnt broken instead of getting all hot and bothered about it. Even a simple link to the page you talked about would have sufficed.

[Keits]

There is nothing elitist about telling someone their eyeball-test was a failure.

[D1]

I spoke to TriForce and we’re unbanning PTX and Gold Lightan. So for heads that thought they can’t use their fave char in tourney…they were wrong.

[TFGM]

Well, as noted, every single lv3 super in the game works on the giants. Often, beating the giants is as simple as playing hit and run until you have lv3, and then landing it. To play more effective hit and run, keep the following in mind:

1.) Use air attacks, and double jump cancel them so you can block right away.
2.) Use multihitting attacks that slow the giants movement, and baroque it when the giant is about to attack. Baroque a lot to keep safe.
3.) Vs Lightan, dont do anything with any recovery on the ground, or he can nearly instantly super you.
4.) Giants grabs can be mashed out of on reaction, just be watching for them.
5.) Super Jump, Air dash, Double Jump, Air dash. Dont sit in the corner.
6.) Remember, the giant has one health bar and cannot heal. You have a partner and can tag out and heal while wasting time.
7.) Many characters have moves that break giant’s armor, use these wisely.
8.) Giant’s normals chip. Every time you block a giant’s attack, you can baroque again.

Character specific

Alex - Powerbomb works really well on both giants. Stungun works but is hard to land. Hyperbomb rapes. This should be all you need.

Batsu - Divekicks, Fireballs, and Baroque. Run away. His lv3 does even more damage if his partner is dead.

Casshan - C divekick breaks armor. Charged C denkou punch breaks armor. Both of these are very punishable, so be careful. B dog puts giants into a jugglable state.

Chun Li - Air mobility out the ass. Come down on top of giants with air down+B, and some lightning legs. Baroque for safety. Land your lv3. Smile.

Doronjo - Run away and drop Tonzura Rocks. Thats it. Save meter for your partner. Your lv3 is too slow.

Frank West - Better vs PTX than Lightan because he has to do everything from the ground. Command throw and super command throw work and lead to stupid juggles with the right assist.

Polimar - This is actually hard. He doesnt have much going for him in these matchups.

Joe the Condor - use your air machine gun and shuricans. Hit and run. Easy.

Jun - Illusion Swan and Illusion Swan Super break giant armor. Hit and run with yo yo whips as well.

Ippatsu - Hit and run with air baseballs. Lv3 is only good if the giant player doesnt know whats going on.

Karas - Chain works on giants. Baroqued C dragon punch can deal a lot of damage and keep you safe.

Ken the Eagle - Boomerangs and running away. His lv1 kick super works on them too.

Morrigan - Run and shoot fireballs. Hold your airdash so you fly farther. Get lv3 and super them and laugh.

Megaman Trigger - Run. Shoot. Jump. Shoot. Super Jump. Super Shoot. SO easy.

Roll - You are pretty fucked honestly. Try to build lv3 and hope to land it.

Ryu - Hit and run and look for lv3. Be careful where you throw your laggy ass fireballs or you’ll get punished.

Saki - Guns and grenades from the air, obviously, but also, load your lv1 unblockable shot into your gun and laugh because the giants are too big to avoid it. Free damage every time.

Soki - This is a hard one too. He doesnt have a lot going for him here.

Tekkaman - The Space Lariat whip works on the giants and lets you combo them like normal characters. His assist does it to. Tekkaman is THE giant killer.

Tekkaman Blade - The other giant killer. His B and C projectiles work on the giants, and as if that wasnt bad enough, his lv1 Crash super does too (and its mad fast). This match is very easy as well.

Viewtiful Joe - Runaway for free all day with superjump redhot kicks. Throw voomerangs at your leasure. Very easy match.

Yatterman 1 - Sonic boom motion whip thing works on giants. Otherwise, zone with projectile, hit and run, land lv3 and mash it for max damaage.

Yatterman 2 - Unsure here, she is new too, but it seems like building lv3 is smarter than summoning robot. Time will tell on this one.

Zero - Going to have to run, shoot air zero busters, and land his lv3.

You probably notice a trend here, and thats because beating giants is generally just that simple. Most giants players dont stick with it because of how hopeless fighting someone who knows how can feel.

Thanks for the information. Everyone in the community should take this information that Keits has given because the Giants are back. Also after taking a look at the game ourselves at the ARC, the giants can’t tech special grabs. So they’re back in the game. Special Sausage as a complimentary gift for banning your character mid tournament you have free entry back in the tournament on me. You still have to pay the house fee.

I haven’t read the entire TvC argument, but even at the launch at Nintendo World I saw someone use PTX, put Joe in the corner, and Joe couldn’t do anything. In my professional opinion, that shit is ASS. Pretty broken if a character can continuously grab you in the corner and even after a burst they can just repeat the process.

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Aside from that, very entertaining tournament from what I watched. GS to everyone who played.

Triforce, any idea if you’ll run another 2v2 SF4 tournament?

BFA 12 will be a 2 v 2 throughout the entire tournament. SF4, TVC and Tetris

This is a joke, right?

How about you go take a trip over to the TvC forums and look through the old threads for, oh I dunno, about a fucking day after the first TvC came out and a bunch of smash players started posting shit about PTX “chain grabs.” Watch how long it took for us to bust that shit up over a year ago. I’ll give you a hint, less than a day. And yet you who obviously doesn’t know how to play this game or care to ask anyone who does just decides that it’s ban worthy? Give me a fucking break.

I’m still calling everyone who voted to ban the giants a scrub. According to what you said and what triforce said, none of you stepped up to the plate to even try to learn how to play the game, you just pussed out because you were scared of losing this one tournament. I can understand that that’s frustrating to have to deal with, but banning it to avoid that frustration, that makes you a scrub.

FYI, I don’t play the game and I don’t like fighting games, especially at a the competitive level.

So like are giants still banned or what? Btw just outta curiosity why you people hating on smash players XD

You’re good for the next tournament.