Wow you must be really bad if you have 5k bp and 1700pp. I played like 100 ranked matches since AE came out (or slightly more, i never play ranked unless i’m really desperate) and have 2300bp 2100pp.
Pp starts getting hard after 3500/4000. Bps are a joke, i’ve faced TERRIBLE players who were over 10k
So you’ve never played more than one character in ranked matches? That’s usually the case if you bring a character up to 5000BP then move on to other characters for a while.
I think your exagerating more than a bit. Being in Ireland I get to rarely fight players with 10k+ due to connection issues etc. I honestly have never faced a 10k player that I though was TERRIBLE, if I did think they were bad after another game or two it was proven to me they did know what they were doing.
PP starts getting hard after 3500/4000 for experianced or very good players, to say that its easy to get to 3500 would be a lie and you know it.
Also getting to 5k BP is a joke and easily grinded as the loss/win ratio of points given just doesnt match up. After B class you see the difference.
But I probably shouldnt have replyed to this as it was just an attack on the op and did nothing but prove how god awesomely brilliant you are.
People seem to think its easy to get 10k+ in BP, Im struggling to see how that is. Honestly Im not great by any stretch and have a lot to learn. Nut Im definatly above scrub status (I hope). The way BP calculates seems to work, for me anyway. As my main I peaked at 9550bp and have since dropped (yes dropped) to around the 8500bp mark. PP on the other hand has varied wildly between 2900-3000 all the way down to 900-1000pp.
At least BP seems to be a better gauge of my skill with my main over time. Meh… Im starting to sound like I actually care about these fu*king points. Just play the damn game, I lose to 0pp Bisons all the time, not because they have 0pp, but because Bisons an asshole. 
I’ve played a bunch actually.
3500 isn’t hard actually.
1785 players on XBL have 3500 or more PP, and an additional 2400~ players have 3000 or more PP and gaining 500PP can happen from simply having a good day playing in that range.
So a little under 5,000 people are masters at the game out of a little over 100,000? Not very convincing man.
calling these people “masters” is a little ridiculous.
Of the people who own this game on a specific console who have happened to play ranked enough, you have 4200 players who are over a certain PP threshold.
Well the fact they are able to get more than 3000PP pretty much assures you that they know what they are doing when they are playing the game. That and the fact that every time I face someone that high I usually get bodied/and or see a combo that I never even knew was even possible to do.
here’s the main things that stop me from playing more ranked sitting at 3297pp and about 4kbp as of this post
-during my prime availability to play ranked, searching more skilled shows about 1 matched player per 10-15 searches.
-matched player usually isnt more skilled, usually about 500pp or so below me. very rarely gives me a player 500 above me
-filtering any or same skill gives a good amount of matched players. however they range from 1000 below to first time players with 0pp/0bp
one day i said fuck it and searched any just so i could play some matches. i think i was about 1 for 30 searches for getting a matched player on more skilled. i played about 20 matches. won 19 for a total of about 80pp. lost the last match to a cody with 500pp/500bp for a loss of 110 or something stupid. and he taunted me
What no rematch?
and if the stupid matchmaking dosent give you matches in that range?
xbox off at that point
Your perspective isn’t obejective. You’re looking up instead of at the whole thing.
I haven’t had anyone show up on more skilled for a week, it sucks.
Yeah more skilled is loose a bit with that. 500pp difference really only means at worst you’re risking about 48/80 instead of 64/64. I wish the k value of matches was lower.
You can’t magically create players who don’t exist. Accept it, go play some endless
This is what I mean dude. Im getting to that level, slowly I admit but Im getting there. But to take the the precenatge that you did and show that 3000+pp is easy to achieve proves it isnt, and dont get me wrong it shouldnt be, I just think its two small of a gauge.
But to keep possible new players interested I honestly think BP is a better way to track progress. Thats what i was trying to say from the start of this thread:
Ive played an absolute silly amount of this game since release, its disgusting to be honest
Coming from a player who has enjoyed fighting games since 1991 but never truly learned how to play them untill vanilla street fighter 4, players need a sense of progression (mine has been BP sad as that may be) to keep them playing untill they step out and attend offline meetups (which I finally did last week).
Taking the top 5000 or so players is pretty much taking players who allready play fighting games to a high standard, Im talking about players like the OP, who obviously are interested in getting better but finding the BP/PP system unfair or not rewarding them with time spent with the game.
Unless you can keep new players interested long enough for them to get to a high enough level to attend offline events etc Capcom need to get them playing and feeling like they are moving forward.
Stuff like this:
Is trolling bullshit and should be frowned on. Unless you want the same players playing the same games forever. New players are needed to keep the scene growing like it is.
Of course endless battles are a better option, but I would gamble that a large portion of players dont want/have time to sit and wait for their turn, or play the same players in rematches. I wonder why they done away with player matches?
anyway… rambling over
edit:
Thats actually a pretty good point.
Not everyone is trying to climb the ladder, doing the research, putting the time into training mode etc. For the most part those players are a huge minority, and if you are one of those players 3k pp should be achievable by you. It’s easy if you are using your brain.
There is no level you need to be at to play in offline events. In fact everyone who wants to get serious about the game should go play offline with people. You meet people, you learn a lot, and you get direct feedback on the spot. My first experiences with SF4 were being horrible and still going to the arcade to get my ass kicked. At my first major I went 0-2 in both teams and singles, and it was a learning experience. You get better from that stuff
they mean nothing to me, until i loose them haha
Just to apologise for editing my post, my grammer was all over the place. I took out the 3Kpp point I made because it isnt true, I know if I played only as my main I would break that point pretty quickly. (well within reason anyway)
Yeah I must say playing offline was like playing a completly different game. I’m living where arcades are a thing of the past, and getting offline games is a bit of a pain, good news is there is a growing (and freindly) community here and I even have a tourny based locally starting up monthly.
But for a long time Online was my only option (and is for a lot of players), so a sense of progression is important to stop people moving on to newer shinier things 
First of all I’d like to point out that every statement i make here is of course a generalization, there will always be exceptions.
I honestly can’t see how people think BP is a better measure. To get a high BP you pretty much just have to play ALOT of ranked, it only takes time. If you also play offline i don’t really see the point in grinding it out. I think i have 5000 with one char who isn’t even my main and that is my highest. I played ranked until I could barely find matches anymore, now i only play endless. My point is that people with a high PP usually have pretty strong fundamentals and a good understanding of the game. They know footsies, punishes, character specific combos, matchups etc.
Most beginners or bad players just learn a few combos they think are cool and then just faceroll those whenever they feel like it, never learning how to properly footsie or other important stuff.
You cant use 5000bp as a reference point. 5000bp is like 1000pp… it comes just from playing games and winning more than 50%.
Actually looking back over the thread, almost everyone is using 5k as a refrence point… 5k is the point you enter B class and start to lose points at an increased rate for losing. Once you rise above 5k (B class) you start to see the BP system working, to say you only need to play a lot of ranked to get to 5k is true, but to get higher you need to be winning too.
I agree with this I really do, my only point Is if you removed PP you would still know the good players because they would have higher BP, only difference is you would only see it on a character basis.
Maybe there is room for both after all lol
theres also arcade. and the portable versions. and people who arent on the AE leaderboards becuase they havent played since Super.
Why try to get points the hard way when you can boost and grind? If points mean something, You can just get them the quick and easy way: 1 round, 30 secs.
In other words, points are pointless.
I think PP gain/loss should be scaled relative to what character you’re playing as. I lost two matches to low PP players trying out Guy for the FIRST TIME in AE ranked match and lost about 200 PP. 2 matches. Seems like an overly harsh penalty for a system that’s intended to show your overall skill as a player.
Honestly, I’d much rather just have win/loss displayed instead of some arbitrary points system. It’d be easy to spot the boosters anyway once you start playing.